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kaydee 26-03-2006 06:00

Thanks to this forum, I now have a WIND SIM with the Mega No Limit GPRS.

Currently, I'm trying to test it here in Canada, but I'll be in Germany, Austria, Hungary, Czech and Switzerland over the next few weeks and hope to be able to use it there with my laptop.

I'm new to this, and I can't seem to get it to work here in Canada (Rogers network.) When I try I get an error on the phone regarding Invalid GPRS Settings.

My questions:
1. Do I use the GRPS settings of the country I am roaming in, or always use the WIND settings? (For example, on Rogers it is wapuser1/wap for the user/pass. I think I tried this and the WIND settings with no success.)

2. Do I need to set up additional profiles on my phone for each country? (I send up a WIND account on my SonyEriccson T200 under the Data Communications section, but it didn't seem to help. A Rogers one was there by default, as I used to use the phone with a Rogers SIM.) If so, is it okay to have multiple data profiles or should I delete them, leaving only the country I am in.)

Sorry for these very basic questions - I've tried searching the forums, and although I found all sorts of great information (such as the rates for using this card for GPRS roaming), I haven't been able to figure this out.

Thanks to anyone who can help me - I leave for Germany on Tuesday, and I'm hoping that I can use the GRPS when I get there.

Kelly.

Bossman 26-03-2006 12:39

Regarding your first question: No, you always use the GPRS settings of your provider, in this case, WIND.

Your second question: You can have as many profiles on your phone as the phone will allow. I am sure there is somewhere on your phone to change the default to whichever one you want. So, make sure you are trying to connect with the correct profile (WIND), or just set WIND as the default for now, till you get back to Canada, then you can change it back.

DRNewcomb 26-03-2006 14:18

Generally you have one profile per SIM. On my phone I have profiles for Wind, O2 & T-Mobile.

kaydee 27-03-2006 04:44

Thanks to everyone who helped with this. Unfortunately, I still get "GPRS Paramaters Not Supported" when I try to connect on the Rogers network.

I'm entering a blank user/password on my computer.

I've send up a "WIND" data profile with wind.internet as the APN and everything else blank.

I can't delete the "ROGERS" profile - for some reason my T200 only allows data profiles to be added, not deleted. However, I did change it to the WIND settings.

Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciate it. Could it just be a problem with Rogers? I'm really hoping it will work in Europe, and I leave on Tuesday...

Thanks again!

Effendi 27-03-2006 08:46

The correct APN is internet.wind not wind.internet...

kaydee 27-03-2006 21:59

Thanks - for pointing that out. I did actually have it correct in the phone - I just typed it in wrong in my message.

Unfortunately, I still get the error message. I've called the data profile "Wind". Is there something else I should try? Apart from the APN, everything else is blank. Do I need the IP address and DNS address?

Thanks!

Kelly.

AndreA 27-03-2006 23:00

try to send this sms to 4533: "GPRS SI"

Maybe the system lost the request for the activation of the service :(

kaydee 31-03-2006 12:53

Unfortunately, that didn't help either. I'm now in Germany and still get the same error message - unsupported GRPS Paramaters.

Anyone have any suggestions? Anything I am missing? I've used GPRS on the phone before, so I'm not sure what the problem could be.

Thanks,

Kelly.

AndreA 31-03-2006 13:30

it's really strange... are you sure that your handset needs another parameter?

I have a 7600 and it has a access point to configure to navigate... more then a APN, it's really strange... did you try to change german network?

Effendi 31-03-2006 13:36

All 4 German operators offer GPRS roaming for Wind customers.
The APN must be internet.wind you can also try to use this DNS: 215.245.255.002.
One question: do you have credit on your sim-card? Dial *123# and tell us what's your credit.

AndreA 31-03-2006 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Effendi
All 4 German operators offer GPRS roaming for Wind customers.

This is true but maybe one of them can have some trouble. I remember that in Prague I had a similar problem with Eurotel the second morning at Hilton.

kaydee 31-03-2006 20:33

I've tried all of the networks that my phone is picking up, and still no luck.

I have checked my credit and have 4.50 Euro left - which means that they charged me for the MegaNoLimit already, plus the .50 for the SMS message to activate it.

I also did the GRPS SI SMS and it doesn't seem to have made a difference.

Any other suggestions would be much appreciated - I did enter the DNS server, but I don't think it even gets that far - the message comes up very quickly.

Thanks,

Kelly.

faquick 31-03-2006 20:56

If I understood it right, you are using it from your PC.

Have you configured it correctly? I mean, you need to either instruct the computer to use the correct APN saved on the phone, or to manually set it up on the modem preferences. To do so, you have to insert this string:

+cgdcont=1,"IP","internet.wind"

in the "advanced configuration" window in the modem options

kaydee 05-04-2006 18:52

Thanks very much for your help with this. Having previously used a GSM provider that didn't require any additional modem strings, I wasn't aware of this requirement.

Adding the "+cgdcont=1" seemed to help a bit, but unfortunately, the rest of the string would cause the phone to error, no matter what combination I tried. (The error was an actual error with the phone, rather than the GRPS Paramaters problem from before, so that is at least progress!)

The strange thing is that after specifying the CID of the data profile for WIND (on my phone it is 4), everytime I try to connect and then check the data profile, the APN is blank. I re-enter the APN on the data profile on the phone, try connecting, and then check and it is blank again.

Any suggestions on how to format the string required to pass the APN using my T200 phone would be greatly appreciated!

(BTW, I'm in Czech right now, and my RIIING phone take 4-5 tries before it will actually call me back when I try to place a call. In Germany it worked great.)

Kelly.

kaydee 05-04-2006 19:46

Thanks to the info from faquick, I was able to find this page (http://www.pocketpcmag.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=17837) in a Google search that showed that using *99***CID# as the number to dial was sometimes required on older GRPS phones. Apparently my T200 is considered older as this helped!

Thanks to everyone who helped me with this.

I can now use the WIND card to get (slow) GPRS service for the rest of my trip. I assume that WIND will just cut me off once I'm over my 200MB roaming limit?

Thanks!

Kelly.

flodis79 05-04-2006 21:25

How much is this Mega No Limit GPRS?
Will your unused usage carry over to the next month?

Effendi 06-04-2006 08:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaydee
I assume that WIND will just cut me off once I'm over my 200MB roaming limit?

No, when you finish your 200MB (=3000?) limit you start paying 0.3c?/KB in Italy and 1.5c? outside Italy, so pay attention! You can check it dialing *124*4242#, should be in English.

flodis79 06-04-2006 16:20

How many MB can I use abroad on the ?30 for ?3 / 30 days wap/imode Pass alternative?

Can it be used on ISP GPRS or only on WAP GRPS and Imode? Ie will I be able to use it on a smartphone using ISP GPRS?

Effendi 06-04-2006 17:15

The forfaits of Wind work in this way: you have a XX amount of euros to spend for data at the normal rates, which are:
IN ITALY:
Wap: 3c?/KB
I-Mode: 1c?/KB
Web: 0.3c?/KB

OUTSIDE ITALY:
Wap/i-mode: 5c?/KB
Web: 1.5c?/KB

With the Mega NoLimit you get 3000? of data credit, with WapPass you get 30? which are something less than 2MB of web navigation, outside of Italy.

You can use both the options for web, i-mode and wap, it only changes the way it charges the forfait.

flodis79 06-04-2006 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Effendi
The forfaits of Wind work in this way: you have a XX amount of euros to spend for data at the normal rates, which are:
IN ITALY:
Wap: 3c?/KB
I-Mode: 1c?/KB
Web: 0.3c?/KB

OUTSIDE ITALY:
Wap/i-mode: 5c?/KB
Web: 1.5c?/KB

With the Mega NoLimit you get 3000? of data credit, with WapPass you get 30? which are something less than 2MB of web navigation, outside of Italy.

You can use both the options for web, i-mode and wap, it only changes the way it charges the forfait.

But how will it be counted if I use "web" on the WapPass? I thought it was only applicable for wap/imode, which doesnt make it such a good deal seeing that the rate is 5 eurocents per kb, thus 600 KB and not around 2 MB?

What is the access points for the web and wap/imode connections?

Effendi 06-04-2006 19:31

It's called "Wap pass" but you can use any of the 3 APNs of Wind:
- internet.wind -> web
- imode.wind -> I-Mode
- wap.wind -> Wap
The tariff changes with the APN.

faquick 08-04-2006 02:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaydee
Thanks to the info from faquick, I was able to find this page

I am glad I have been useful, even if just by giving you a "hint" instead of fully being able to help you ;) I did not remember that "alternate" ("older" :P as that page calls it) string... but anyway you have been able to connect, so that's good :)


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