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I am located in the US. I have purchased a new Riiing sim for use on a trip later this year. I am trying to reset my voicemail password. In order to change my password, I must enter the old password, but I do not know what it is. According to documentation online at the United Mobile website, the password is supposed to be located on the sim card, but all I see are the PIN, PUK and phone number. How do I learn the password, or is there some sort of default for new accounts? I've sent two e-mails to United Mobile but have not received a response. Thanks.

It's the last 4 digits of the PUK code.

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Thank you so much.

Let us know what service you are using to call in to Liechtenstein and the rate, please.
Not easy to find 1) a service that works! and 2) a reasonable rate.

Many of the calling cards I have tried DON'T EVER CONNECT TO 423 663 #s. Those that do charge > 50 cents per minute.

Stan

From my landline...at&T ld on its $1/month plan. $0.11/minute to Liechtenstein mobiles.

Callbackword pin2dest....US 800 number + pin $0.14 US

And the permanent question asked here is "how long will those rates be valid?" :P

And the usual answer to that question is who knows? I can only deal with what is today....two weeks from now if the EU has its way, all of Euroope will be one big happy (well maybe not happy) roaming zone and none of this will matter (but don't hold your breath).

What do you mean by "all of Europe will be one big happy (well maybe not happy) roaming zone"? Some brand new brilliant idea of Brussels beaurocrats :)?

Somebody else will have to help out here but I have read that the bureaucrats in Brussels have expressed concerns over the high cost of roaming and that one of the responses was Vodafone's new plans. Several links to reports have been placed on this forum and the European forum regarding this but I was just trying to be funny with the statement about one big happy or unhappy family.

But it wouldn't surprise me, would it surprise you, if in the near future the EU had something to say about this.

Gentlemen:

My question was actually directed to the thread starter, AndyG. Point to see if he had an alternative means of economically reaching 423 663 numbers. Was hoping he had another solution.

PERSONALLY, I am not willing to go with the ATT MONTHLY plan mentioned by MATHA531. I use CBW - PIN2DEST.

Rates and conditions are always subject to change. Not only EU but telcos play in this.

I use worldwidecallback.com, it's .33/min to Liechtenstein mobile.

Thanks!

The site seems NOT to be responding from here (work) at this time. Will try to check it out from home.

Try with www in the address: http://www.worldwidecallback.com/

Thanks. Got it to work.

I did not fully explore, but it seems that the CBW rates are better (lower).

AndyG, what is the advantage?


Stan

I've been using them for several years. Their customer service people always respond promptly.

Another noobie trying to add my own two cents...

I just purchased a U-M starter pack and still waiting for it to arrive. Based on the information in this thread, I am guessing that the phone numbers U-M assigns its sim cards are in the 423-663 range.

It is my intention that people calling me from the US will mostly be using Vonage. According to their website, calls to all 423 numbers, with the exception of 4235-37 will only be charged $0.07 a minute. Calls made to 4235-37 are $0.72 a minute.

Since the areas I will be traveling to support free incoming calls, this set-up appears to be incredibly dirt cheap. Almost too good to be true.

Is there something here I am missing?

And if not, perhaps this approach may be something others here may want to consider.

TIA.

Yes, they are.

Please quote the URL with the price list.
After all, I guess that 4235-37 should be written rather as 423 5-7 and it means:
423 5xx, 423 6xx, 423 7xx and 423 663 is within the range of course :(.

And, of course, no free lunch - someone must pay for free incoming calls and that's why rates to +423 mobiles are going up worldwide, but still there should be providers with better rates than 72 cents/min.

My US mobile is with Cingular. I added on their "fast forward" service which is unlimited domestic call forwarding. I currently have a VOIP line which is forwarding to me real cheap. I expect to lose that rate fairly quickly, but I can change the forwarding on the fly.

Callbackworld's is 14 cents a minute and the company knows that people are using it to call Riiing with them in quantity. In fact, there used to a Riiing link on their website. Presumably, callbackworld has found a route to Lichtenstein where they can make profit.

Stu

Thanks for the reply. I see what you are saying about the phone number range, as opposed to a specific prefix. For some of you experts, I guess that was a no-brainer, but for me that was something new. The URL associated with the 423 country rates can be found here:

Vonage Rates for Lichtenstein

Based on your post, I guess that means that people calling me via Vonage will be paying $0.72 a minute. I guess I better start looking for better alternatives.....

Thanks for the info!! You just saved me an unexpected $100 phone bill next month!

That is a very good rate. I thought sure that there must be a large Mobile Termination Fee on top of that. But I'm looking at ATTs website at
http://www.consumer.att.com/global/english...tingnumber.html
and it appears (amazingly) that they do not charge a Termination Fee for Liechtenstein. If you use the pulldown menu of countries to get the rate, Liechtenstein does not appear (though it is mentioned on the table below).

If that is right, then the ATT rate is the best I've seen. My home Long Distance service is with Bellsouth, who gives a great .08/min rate to Liechtenstein, but tacks on .39/min Mobile Termination!

Kupe