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kimdo 04-07-2012 13:59

Bangkok Sim Card for data roaming
 
Will dtac sim card support Huawei pocket wifi?

I will stay in Bangkok for a week. I need to buy a data sim for data roaming. Which sim is suitable? Will dtac ok for it?

Thanks a lot

inquisitor 04-07-2012 14:30

Depends on which Huawei pocket WiFi you own as there are different versions supporting different frequency bands.

Here we recently discussed all Thai networks and their frequency bands.

kimdo 04-07-2012 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 39931)
Depends on which Huawei pocket WiFi you own as there are different versions supporting different frequency bands.

Here we recently discussed all Thai networks and their frequency bands.

My pocket wifi is huawei e583c, I have tried imobile 3gx last time when I visited Bangkok. It's ok for data roaming in Bangkok, but it was not be supported in airport.

This time, I want to try dtac, but I don't know will dtac support Huawei e583c. I know dtac is gsm1800

inquisitor 04-07-2012 16:10

The E583C supports 3G/UMTS at 900 and 2100 MHz and some sources also mention 1900 MHz.

i-mobile 3GX is a MVNO on the TOT3G network which runs its 3G/UMTS network at 2100 MHz. However their 3G/UMTS network's coverage is pretty limited: iLocation (check "3G signal" for the coverage overlay)

With the E583C you cannot access DTAC's 3G/UMTS network since it is operated at 850 MHz. You would only be ablte to access DTAC's 2G/GSM network which runs at 1800 MHz.

Therefore you should only use i-mobile 3GX/TOT3G or AIS, which may provide better coverage than TOT3G/imobile 3GX: ??????????????????????? 3G Internet ????? | AIS 3G Mobile Internet

kimdo 05-07-2012 01:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 39933)
The E583C supports 3G/UMTS at 900 and 2100 MHz and some sources also mention 1900 MHz.

i-mobile 3GX is a MVNO on the TOT3G network which runs its 3G/UMTS network at 2100 MHz. However their 3G/UMTS network's coverage is pretty limited: iLocation (check "3G signal" for the coverage overlay)

With the E583C you cannot access DTAC's 3G/UMTS network since it is operated at 850 MHz. You would only be ablte to access DTAC's 2G/GSM network which runs at 1800 MHz.

Therefore you should only use i-mobile 3GX/TOT3G or AIS, which may provide better coverage than TOT3G/imobile 3GX: ??????????????????????? 3G Internet ????? | AIS 3G Mobile Internet

Hi inquisitor,
Thanks a lot. I shall try AIS then. Would you mind telling me which AIS pre-paid sim package is suitable for me? I will stay at Bangkok for about 5-6 days.
Besides, where can I buy AIS data sim? Would you mind also teach me how to set the APN? And, how to activate the AIS data sim.
Many thanks,
KIM

inquisitor 05-07-2012 01:37

Sorry, I have never been to Thailand and my recent attempt to get an overview of Thai prepaid SIM packages for a friend who flew to Thailand was unsuccessful as most operators' websites are only partly translated into English.

I only found out that from AIS there is a product called "GSM Advance" and another one called "1-2-Call" but I don't know which of them is prepaid, what the SIM card costs and where you can buy it.
I also found this overview of data packages, of which some are only available to "GSM Advance" customers while others are only available with the "1-2-Call" tariff: ??????? Internet Edge, 3G ??? Wifi ?????????? | AIS Mobile Internet

Also it seems like these packages can only be ordered by USSD codes, which you can only enter with a phone but not with your Huawei pocket router.

Finally these are the APN settings for AIS:
APN: internet
username: ais
password: ais

I gave you a link for a tutorial here only three months ago.

kimdo 05-07-2012 02:00

Thanks again.

I have used i-mobile 3GX for two times in the past. It's cheap and worth for just few days travellers.

You are right, most Thai operators' websites are in Thai. It is very hard to get information. Even I am in Bangkok, their staff can't give me enough information about that.

Maybe I still need to use imobile 3GX this time, but... really want to try other one.

dg7feq 06-07-2012 09:23

i-mobile is a good choice if you are in and around bangkok. 3G data is available nearly everywhere, AIS is still a bit patchy.
You can buy any SIM on TOT 3G Network, i-mobile is only one of many providers using it. You can distinguish these SIM cards as they are advertised with 1 GB traffic = 100 THB (2.5 Euro)

Chris

dg7feq 06-07-2012 09:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimdo (Post 39938)
Hi inquisitor,
Thanks a lot. I shall try AIS then. Would you mind telling me which AIS pre-paid sim package is suitable for me? I will stay at Bangkok for about 5-6 days.
Besides, where can I buy AIS data sim? Would you mind also teach me how to set the APN? And, how to activate the AIS data sim.
Many thanks,
KIM

if you want to buy AIS i recommend to go in a real AIS store as the chance of english speaking personal is the biggest.
You can get a 3G NETSIM card and tell the counter to activate it including the needed tariff right away. You have the following choice (+ mabye some nice promotions):

149 baht: 150 MB - *133*40#
350 baht: 1 GB - *133*41#
550 baht: 2 GB + unlimited wifi hotspot usage - *133*42#
799 baht: Unlimited, 3 GB highspeed, afterwards 384kbps, unlimited wifi - *133*43#

if you want to activate yourself make sure you have enough balance and dial the code behind the info above (e.g. *133*42# for 2 GB package)


coverage can be seen here:
??????????????????????? 3G Internet ????? | AIS 3G Mobile Internet

For TOT3G (i-mobile etc) coverage can be seen here:
iLocation

kimdo 06-07-2012 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg7feq (Post 39960)
if you want to buy AIS i recommend to go in a real AIS store as the chance of english speaking personal is the biggest.
You can get a 3G NETSIM card and tell the counter to activate it including the needed tariff right away. You have the following choice (+ mabye some nice promotions):

149 baht: 150 MB - *133*40#
350 baht: 1 GB - *133*41#
550 baht: 2 GB + unlimited wifi hotspot usage - *133*42#
799 baht: Unlimited, 3 GB highspeed, afterwards 384kbps, unlimited wifi - *133*43#

if you want to activate yourself make sure you have enough balance and dial the code behind the info above (e.g. *133*42# for 2 GB package)


coverage can be seen here:
??????????????????????? 3G Internet ????? | AIS 3G Mobile Internet

For TOT3G (i-mobile etc) coverage can be seen here:
iLocation

Thanks a lot.

Have you try dtac? I'm now thinking that.... maybe I am simply use smartphone (iPhone or Samsung Note), just purchase the Happy Tourist Package,199Baht/7 days unlimited. And then sharing to other devices.

However, I don't know the speed... I just think, compare with i-mobile 3gx, it might be faster and stable.

dg7feq 06-07-2012 13:14

As far as i know DTAC has the weakest 3G coverage, the only advantage over i-mobile is that it has fallover to 2G network when there is no coverage available. As the DTAC 3G is on 850 MHz my handsets can not use it so i could not perform any live check.

kimdo 06-07-2012 13:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg7feq (Post 39962)
As far as i know DTAC has the weakest 3G coverage, the only advantage over i-mobile is that it has fallover to 2G network when there is no coverage available. As the DTAC 3G is on 850 MHz my handsets can not use it so i could not perform any live check.

I see. How about True Move?

dg7feq 06-07-2012 13:48

same problem for me: 3G on 850 MHz.
But i often use the TrueMove InterSIM which has good data rates and 1 THB/min to all main international destinations. EDGE works quite good with them...

kimdo 06-07-2012 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg7feq (Post 39965)
same problem for me: 3G on 850 MHz.
But i often use the TrueMove InterSIM which has good data rates and 1 THB/min to all main international destinations. EDGE works quite good with them...

Are you using the SIM in Mifi? or just smartphone?

As I know, Truemove has TRUE-H SIM Pack, 49bth/1 day unlimited. Do you think it is a good option? And, this SIM is for smartphone only?

dg7feq 06-07-2012 15:00

i have a smartphone and use wifi tethering when needed.
You can use all data options on all true SIM cards, so you can buy the one for cheapest calls and just activate the day package as well...

There are 2 day packages:
39 THB = unlimited EDGE
49 THB = unlimited EDGE + a few hours on wifi hotspots
to activate send D1 or D2 by sms to 9789

Chris

kimdo 06-07-2012 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg7feq (Post 39967)
i have a smartphone and use wifi tethering when needed.
You can use all data options on all true SIM cards, so you can buy the one for cheapest calls and just activate the day package as well...

There are 2 day packages:
39 THB = unlimited EDGE
49 THB = unlimited EDGE + a few hours on wifi hotspots
to activate send D1 or D2 by sms to 9789

Chris

Thanks for your information. By the way, I can't find the 2 day package? All I can find is a 49bth for 1 day unlimited.

I got it. "2" one day packages

dg7feq 08-07-2012 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimdo (Post 39968)
Thanks for your information. By the way, I can't find the 2 day package? All I can find is a 49bth for 1 day unlimited.

I got it. "2" one day packages

yes you got it ;-) As the wifi hotspots are mostly totally overloaded you can also take the 39 THB version and forget about the wifi. I found that EDGE was often faster than the wifi... arrr

kimdo 09-07-2012 03:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg7feq (Post 39987)
yes you got it ;-) As the wifi hotspots are mostly totally overloaded you can also take the 39 THB version and forget about the wifi. I found that EDGE was often faster than the wifi... arrr

I can only find the 49bth daily unlimited plan in True-H website. I can't find the 39 THB version :confused:

dg7feq 09-07-2012 10:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimdo (Post 39989)
I can only find the 49bth daily unlimited plan in True-H website. I can't find the 39 THB version :confused:

yes, their website is more or less useless... Just SMS D1 instead of D2 and you will get the 39THB package. They will be able to show you a complete price list only in the TRUE shops (and only after lengthly discussions)...

kimdo 09-07-2012 12:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg7feq (Post 39991)
yes, their website is more or less useless... Just SMS D1 instead of D2 and you will get the 39THB package. They will be able to show you a complete price list only in the TRUE shops (and only after lengthly discussions)...

Oh... I see, thanks again:)

BTW, I have sent you a message :)

kktk 30-09-2012 08:24

Interesting thread...good info.

I will be visiting Bangkok next week as well and I was interested in finding out a few options:

1. I have a I9020T from Samsung(Nexus S)...which only operates on 3G on 900 / 1700 / 2100 MHz UMTS...Will I be able to receive 3G on either AIS/DTAC/Tru?

2. I also have an ASUS TF101 which doesnt have a sim card capability...so I need a portable WIFI solution as well...looks like AIS has a Pocket WIFI which offers this---any other options? I dont want to be stuck with EDGE or with HotSpots for sure.

Thanks for the info.
K

inquisitor 30-09-2012 12:43

Check out this post, according to which your Nexus S would work on AIS and on TOT3G.
By the way Huawei has recently released the first pentaband 3G handset running Android, the Ascend P1, which virtually supports all the global 3G frequencies used today (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100). It only lacks some Japanese frequencies (700 and 1700), which are of minor relevance.

kktk 30-09-2012 23:26

Thanks..
Any idea about the pocket wifi or something similar?

inquisitor 01-10-2012 02:16

As there isn't any pocket wifi supporting all the Thai frequency bands we can hardly recommend any pocket wifi unless you contain potential operators.

kktk 01-10-2012 07:33

From what I saw...AIS is the only one that offers the Pocket Wifi(which believe is the HUAWEI_E583X). It seems that it works at 7.2MB/s.

Also, I just saw something confusing on AIS's website...that their 900 frequency band for 3G is for CDMA? I thought it was all GSM??

Any ideas?

dg7feq 01-10-2012 11:05

they refer to WCDMA which is another word for 3G/UMTS, which is strictly spoken not GSM/2G.

inquisitor 01-10-2012 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by kktk (Post 40851)
From what I saw...AIS is the only one that offers the Pocket Wifi(which believe is the HUAWEI_E583X). It seems that it works at 7.2MB/s.

You don't necessarily need to buy the device from the operator which you intend to use. Just make sure it's unlocked and supports the required 3G frequency.

Quote:

Also, I just saw something confusing on AIS's website...that their 900 frequency band for 3G is for CDMA? I thought it was all GSM??
What they run on 900 MHz is a UMTS network, which sometimes is also designated as "WCDMA", "HSPA" or "3G" and in the US such networks are even considered "4G" once they support very high speeds using HSPA technology.
GSM in contrast is the predecessor standard that is also called "2G". UMTS evolved from the GSM standard, that's why UMTS devices are always backwards compatible to GSM.

Both are incompatible with the American CDMA/EV-DO standard which is also called "3G".

2G, 3G and 4G are rather non-technical terms that describe the 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation of radio standards which are not necessarily compatible with each other.

dg7feq 01-10-2012 13:14

Please note that in Thailand you can also buy tariffs and devices for CDMA / EV-DO network. But from TOT and not from AIS.

kktk 01-10-2012 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 40858)
You don't necessarily need to buy the device from the operator which you intend to use. Just make sure it's unlocked and supports the required 3G frequency.

What they run on 900 MHz is a UMTS network, which sometimes is also designated as "WCDMA", "HSPA" or "3G" and in the US such networks are even considered "4G" once they support very high speeds using HSPA technology.
GSM in contrast is the predecessor standard that is also called "2G". UMTS evolved from the GSM standard, that's why UMTS devices are always backwards compatible to GSM.

Both are incompatible with the American CDMA/EV-DO standard which is also called "3G".

2G, 3G and 4G are rather non-technical terms that describe the 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation of radio standards which are not necessarily compatible with each other.

Perfect...thanks. The one listed on the AIS website only offers 7.2 Mbps/s.
I found a few more that support 21 Mbps/s here:
???????????? 3G Router ???? ??? ??? ???? ??? ??????? ????

I'll try and get one of these assuming that they are unlocked and can utilize some of the 42Mbps speeds being offered by AIS or TOT?

As far as the sim for the cell goes--it seems like both AIS or TOT would work as AIS would give me 3g on 900 and TOT on 2100(both which the Nexus S supports).

Anyone have real world experience with which of these services truly have good coverage at those speeds? I plan to stay in Bangkok throughout with little or no travel to other parts of the country.

inquisitor 01-10-2012 22:16

In any case buy a mobile hotspot from Huawei or ZTE as most of the other stuff is of low quality. Unfortunately I am not aware of any mobile hotspot that would support American 3G frequency bands besides the Thai ones, so whichever device you select it will be rather useless back in the Staats. There are only USB modems that support all five global UMTS frequencies (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100) and thus are called "pentaband", such like the Huawei E369.

kktk 01-10-2012 23:40

Understood...my intention was purely to use this device for travel in Thailand.

dg7feq 02-10-2012 13:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by kktk (Post 40869)
Anyone have real world experience with which of these services truly have good coverage at those speeds? I plan to stay in Bangkok throughout with little or no travel to other parts of the country.

in Bangkok i use SIM cards from TOT brands in a USB modem. Real-life speeds vary between 3 and 6 Mbit and the coverage is excellent. My modem only allowes a max speed of 7.2 Mbit so i can not tell about the higher speeds (but usually when surfing on international websites you can not expect high speeds on the thai internet, only when surfing on domestic websites).


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