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fsotirop 27-03-2012 10:08

Camel mobile
 
have anyone had any experience with these guys?
their calling rates are great... Rates - CamelMobile
the assigned number is a Latvian one +371

dg7feq 27-03-2012 11:04

did you find out how much the SIM will cost?
even after registering an account you cant see a price :P

dg7feq 27-03-2012 12:06

got the reply already:

SIM card costs 10 EUR,
Shipment to Germany is 10 EUR (registered letter), or 30-40 EUR (by courier mail),

prion 27-03-2012 12:08

What I can tell you is that this prefix (+371222) appears to be a very high priced one to dial . One voip provider charges it 1.1$/min! This is extremely high.

fsotirop 27-03-2012 13:20

with rebtel it costs just 0.183 € /min to call these numbers... and are accessible from betamax also.

their customer support replies are extremely very quick.

prion 27-03-2012 13:32

I suppose its just a matter of time that these rates increase. We have seen this in the UM case (Liechtenstein prefix).

I have put the number in rebtel and it appears to cost 22.9 dollar cents/min

fsotirop 27-03-2012 13:35

check some of the numbers availiable for sale on their website e.g. +37122206457 , +37122206801 etc...
Cheap International calling rates from Rebtel 0.183 € /min ...

is even more cheaper calling these numbers through betamax clones and (still at least) accessible .

Bossman 27-03-2012 14:39

They are smoking a lot of something! 30 - 40 Euro to mail something that should cost may be 1 euro. They must be nuts!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg7feq (Post 39030)
got the reply already:

SIM card costs 10 EUR,
Shipment to Germany is 10 EUR (registered letter), or 30-40 EUR (by courier mail),


fsotirop 27-03-2012 14:44

they replied me also ...posting costs are 10 eur. worldwide via registered mail.

30-40 eur. via courier (2 days delivery) is ONLY if requested by an urgent customer..

dg7feq 27-03-2012 15:41

pretty numbers available at the moment by the way...

fsotirop 27-03-2012 16:57

their rates are very competitive. also according to their website within european union they charge by the second (with a minimum of 30sec)

vr1970 11-04-2012 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsotirop (Post 39032)
with rebtel it costs just 0.183 € /min to call these numbers... and are accessible from betamax also.

their customer support replies are extremely very quick.

Betamax clones and Rebtel don't support camel +37122xxxxxx numbers.
It's very expensive to call this number. :nono:

dg7feq 11-04-2012 07:59

did you try future nine? They have Camel as a seperate rate in their list:

Low rate VoIP Rates, Cheap VoIP Rates, Future Nine Rates, Internet Phone Service Rates, International VoIP Rates

Destination Number Latvia - Mobile CAMEL
Cost per minute $0.171

fsotirop 11-04-2012 15:48

calling from rebtel is ok...checked it now!
from megavoip.com (betamax clone) was ok since yestreday, haven't checked it today!

-Camel mobile introduced new (reduced outgoing rates) as from 1st of April 2012. plus they offer free incoming calls to 135+countries (includ. USA)
i am testin g their sim now i ordered last week and i am quite satisfied. no bug found.
their callingback function of their sim is the quickest i have seen from all international simcards used up to now.
their data rates are also competitive at 0.69eur./mb including all european countries, plus the US and Japan and other non-European countries!


-they also offer sip calling , which uses the balance of the simcard!

-their online system: manager.camelmobile.com is very good, fully functional... plus they offer the option to recharge the balance with even 1eur.!

-very important: the validity of the sim and the balance on it is unlimited!
the only condition is to make a single chargable call or sms every 12months! no recharge/topup required!

-calling from one camelmobile number to another camelmobile number costs 0.18eur./min to most countries!

-within european union they charge outgoing calls (to all other europ.Union countries) by the second (with a minimum of 30sec).
incoming calls within european union are charged by the second with no minimum duration.
sms sent from an eu country to another eu country is charged with 0.11eur/sms.

-As advised from their sales team as of April 2012 they also offer the following optional airtime bundles:
copy paste from their email received:
1) Bundle 100

Description of bundle:
The bundle includes the following services in 30 countries ( list of countries below):
outgoing calls – 100 minutes;
incoming calls – unlimited;
outgoing SMS – 100;
incoming SMS – unlimited.

The bundle is valid for 180 calendar days from the moment of activation.
Activation of bundle does not change any other rates.
Cost of bundle: 30,00 EUR.

List of countries:
Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Egypt, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom, Vietnam.


2) Bundle 200

Description of bundle:
The bundle includes the following services in 30 countries ( list of countries below):
outgoing calls – 200 minutes;
incoming calls – unlimited;
outgoing SMS – 200;
Incoming SMS – unlimited.

The bundle is valid for 180 calendar days from the moment of activation.
Activation of bundle does not change any other rates.
Cost of bundle: 55,00 EUR.

List of countries:
Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Egypt, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom, Vietnam.



3) Discount Bundle

Description of bundle:
The bundle includes the following services inside of 30 countries (list of countries below):
the first minute of outgoing call is charged according to standard rate;
outgoing calls starting from 2nd minute – 0,185 EUR/min;
Bonus for incoming calls starting from 3rd minute – 0,02 EUR/min.

The bundle is valid for 180 calendar days from the moment of activation.
Activation of bundle does not change any other rates.
Cost of bundle: 2,50 EUR.

List of countries:
Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Egypt, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom, Vietnam.



-their technical support replied via email on a question asked within half an hour , last Sunday night (Easter time)!



until now very impressed with these guys, already ordered additional simcards.

Camel Mobile 12-04-2012 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsotirop (Post 39129)
until now very impressed with these guys, already ordered additional simcards.

Hi, everyone,
I'm writing on behalf of Camel Mobile, international roaming mobile operator.

fsotirop, thank you very much for the positive comments posted about our service, we really appreciate.

So, if anybody needs more assistance or would like to try our SIM cards, you are more than welcome at tk@camelmobile.com.

Best regards,
Tatjana

fsotirop 13-04-2012 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camel Mobile (Post 39152)
Hi, everyone,
I'm writing on behalf of Camel Mobile, international roaming mobile operator.

fsotirop, thank you very much for the positive comments posted about our service, we really appreciate.

So, if anybody needs more assistance or would like to try our SIM cards, you are more than welcome at tk@camelmobile.com.

Best regards,
Tatjana

you 're welcome camelmobile..just wrote my good experience with your service.

fsotirop 17-04-2012 12:58

just been informed from their cust.service that they offer a new interesting service... online tracking position via map of the sim cards.
the service is free till the end of May, afterwards it will be charged with 1eur. per month.

fsotirop 19-04-2012 15:30

they also offer unlimited sending sms to camel mobile numbers through their website at Camel Mobile - Roaming Service with Voice, Internet and SMS all on one SIM - CamelMobile

james denoil 20-04-2012 08:42

call charges are very much less in INDIA and I can bet that the call charges are lowest here in the entire world.

fsotirop 20-04-2012 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by james denoil (Post 39239)
call charges are very much less in INDIA and I can bet that the call charges are lowest here in the entire world.

yes, they have very competitive outgoing rates to most countries, plus they offer free incoming calls to 130 countries includ. USA, Russia etc

vr1970 21-04-2012 16:30

Camel Mobile has the same function of TRAVELSIM+372

vr1970 21-04-2012 16:36

Camel Mobile has the same function of TRAVELSIM+372
To check sim balance press 099, free send sms from website to Camel Mobile sim
like Travelsim+372.
Also free incoming calls to 124 country to Travelsim+372 (but not the same country).
Question:
Is Camel Mobile a trademark of CSC TELECOM (ESTONIAN AND LATVIAN) ?????

fsotirop 21-04-2012 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by vr1970 (Post 39264)
Camel Mobile has the same function of TRAVELSIM+372
To check sim balance press 099, free send sms from website to Camel Mobile sim
like Travelsim+372.
Also free incoming calls to 124 country to Travelsim+372 (but not the same country).
Question:
Is Camel Mobile a trademark of CSC TELECOM (ESTONIAN AND LATVIAN) ?????

no.
they are competitors.
they just use the same routing & operating roaming platform. that is why they have some common quick access short codes.

Camelmobile is a fully licensed operator in Latvia, registration licence no: 40103181903. http://www.camelmobile.com/en/about/about/
Camelmobile is a subsiadary of BITE-LATVIA network. http://www.bite.lv/en
BITE-LATVIA network is owned by the mother-company BITE Group ... http://www.bitegroup.net/en/about/group
mother-company BITE Group also operates in Lithuania with its owned network BITE-LITHUANIA http://www.bite.lt/lt/privatiems/planai
Camel mobile is the international part (only for roaming) of BITE-LATVIA...doesn't operate localy in Latvia, even though it uses the mobile tel. numbers prefixes of BITE-LATVIA +371222 & +37121.
Bite Group is included on Vodafone's worldwide partner networks since 2003... http://www.bitegroup.net/en/about/bitevodafone
that is why camelmobile simcards are preset to prefer vodafone networks abroad, even though you can manually select another network.


camelmobile was founded is 2005..and operates also via several worldwide resellers (mainly european) such as: alfamobile, teletie, novikontas, altitel, novasim, teqli-telecom e.t.c.

fsotirop 24-04-2012 09:37

new reduced rates as of April 2012 We are glad to inform about changes in rates plan - CamelMobile

fsotirop 24-04-2012 17:41

this is the new-reduced-pricelist of all their services (roaming voice, roaming data, roaming sms, roaming voice bundles & sip calling) :
https://rapidshare.com/files/1501317...ail_1apr12.xls

outgoing calls within european union are charged per second (with a minimum of 30sec).
incoming calls within european union countries are charged per second with no minimum duration.
sms sent from an eu country to another eu country is charged with 0.11eur/sms.
sip calling billing per second!

receiving calls in the USA is free and outgoing rates from USA to all over the world at 0.35eur per minute !

dg7feq 25-04-2012 11:27

download link does not work

fsotirop 25-04-2012 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg7feq (Post 39307)
download link does not work

just tried worked ok.

dg7feq 25-04-2012 12:42

me too:

Download nicht verfügbar
Folgender Download ist nicht verfügbar:
https://rapidshare.com/files/1501317...ail_1apr12.xls | 0.34 MB
Download-Parameter ungültig - bitte nocheinmal probieren.

(following download is not available...).

fsotirop 25-04-2012 12:45

check your inbox

Bossman 25-04-2012 17:53

It's still beyond me how they are able to provide free incoming in the Caribbean the US as well), that tends to have very high roaming rates. . That's if it works there of course. may be because of the termination rates to the +371 number.

fsotirop 25-04-2012 17:59

in USA is tested and worked fine, free incoming calls both on AT&T and T-MOBILE networks.
-outgoing calls from US ( both on AT&T and TMOBILE networks) charged at only 0.35eur/min (to all destinations).
-While in US, calling to another camelmobile costs just 0.24eur./minute
-Data roaming availiable on AT&T, rate at 0.69eur. per mb... billed in 10kb increments!
-outgoing SMS while in US costs 0.30eur/sms worldwide.
-incoming SMS while in US free.

as said on a previous post...Camelmobile uses Vodafone's worldwide roaming agreements and call routing, so there is NO possibility you can't get it work.

the camelmobile simcard I use in Greece, work and bill charges exactly as advertised.


another great feature of camelmobile just discovered is the «Call me back» service.

If your SIM-card is out of balance, you can send SMS message to any user of any mobile
operator worldwide asking him to call you back, using the service «Call me back».
The service is provided free of charge and doesn’t require any additional set up.
In order to ask a user to call back, you just dial the command on your
phone *146*90*00 code of the country phone number# and press «Call» button.
There is a notofication on screen of your phone saying that message has been
sent.
The user, who you are asking to call you back, will receive SMS from you, saying
«The user has not enough balance to make a call. Please call back».
For convenience someone can add the command *146*90*00 code of the country phone
number# to his contact list. When needed it can choose it from the list and press
the «Call» button.
The service «Call me back» may be used no more than 5 times in 24 hours.

Very Important feature!

Bossman 25-04-2012 18:21

I need a backup to my Ekit and I am considering this sim. I have Telna, but, well...

Next trip is in June to Montego Bay, Jamaica for a week. The best I have right now is Telna at $0.50/min. I just do not want to depend on Telna alone. Ekit is now showing $1.29 to receive there. It used to be way cheaper(Actually I believe it was free when I last used Ekit there 2 years ago) than that, even up to 2 months ago.

Bottom line - I am trying to minimize my initial outlay for a sim card. So, how much credit comes on the card as default? Then I will decide if I am willing to pay the 10Euro to mail it to the US.

fsotirop 25-04-2012 18:33

simcard costs 10eur.
registered airmail posting (worldwide) costs 10 eur. from 1 to as many simcards ordered together.
no balance on initial purchase, you either add balance later or at the time of purchasing the sim.
except creditcard & bank transfer they also accept paypal.


*In Jamaica they offer free incoming calls, outgoing calls at 0.55eur./minute.
sms while in Jamaica 0.30eur/sms

they have roaming agreement with both Oceanic Digital Jamaica Limited (2G & 3G) and with Digicel (2G)

Bossman 25-04-2012 19:08

If I understand correctly, that's 20 euro for a sim card with no credit. yeah, I checked the Jamaica rates already.



Quote:

Originally Posted by fsotirop (Post 39315)
simcard costs 10eur.
registered posting (worldwide) costs 10 eur. from 1 to as many simcards ordered together.
no balance on initial purchase, you either add balance later or at the time of purchasing the sim.
except creditcard & bank transfer they also accept paypal.


*In Jamaica they offer free incoming calls, outgoing calls at 0.55eur./minute.
sms while in Jamaica 0.30eur/sms

they have roaming agreement with both Oceanic Digital Jamaica Limited (2G & 3G) and with Digicel (2G)


fsotirop 25-04-2012 19:10

yes and you can add airtime starting from just 1euro!!
also bear in mind that camelmobile simcards & the balance on it do NOT expire if you don't recharge them!
the only condition is to make a chargable call or sms or data connection once every 24months!

Bossman 25-04-2012 20:13

Thanks for the detailed update. Are you affiliated with them or something?

A lot of things about the sim sound good, however as someone that has lost money on several similar companies (just recently with Yackie/Paytoo) that have gone under, I would rather not spend 20 euro on sim with no credit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsotirop (Post 39317)
yes and you can add airtime starting from just 1euro!!
also bear in mind that camelmobile simcards & the balance on it do NOT expire if you don't recharge them!
the only condition is to make a chargable call or sms or data connection once every 24months!


fsotirop 25-04-2012 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsotirop (Post 39271)
no.
they are competitors.
they just use the same routing & operating roaming platform. that is why they have some common quick access short codes.

Camelmobile is a fully licensed operator in Latvia, registration licence no: 40103181903. About company - CamelMobile
Camelmobile is a subsiadary of BITE-LATVIA network. For Private | www.bite.lv
BITE-LATVIA network is owned by the mother-company BITE Group ... BIT? - BIT? Group
mother-company BITE Group also operates in Lithuania with its owned network BITE-LITHUANIA www.bite.lt » Mok?jimo planai
Camel mobile is the international part (only for roaming) of BITE-LATVIA...doesn't operate localy in Latvia, even though it uses the mobile tel. numbers prefixes of BITE-LATVIA +371222 & +37121.
Bite Group is included on Vodafone's worldwide partner networks since 2003... BIT? - BIT? and Vodafone partnership
that is why camelmobile simcards are preset to prefer vodafone networks abroad, even though you can manually select another network.


camelmobile was founded is 2005..and operates also via several worldwide resellers (mainly european) such as: alfamobile, teletie, novikontas, altitel, novasim, teqli-telecom e.t.c.

Bossman read above post..


no, i'm a customer of them. i'm an IT engineer specialized on telec.services.
the company i work for, have order 4test simcards from them, our testing trials (running approx.1month) show NO bug and exact billing as advertised.
we trialed not only billing & service availiability but each one of their offered services, for e.g. gprs, online managemnet, call me back, sip, cellId tracking, free sms from their webiste etc
the only service not working properly is the fax-receiving but they're working on it as they told us.
we're looking for to replace all our current international simcards (around 50+ simcards) for our fleet drivers.
our current simcards are of cloud9 service (+4477000 numbers)

all these years after tried most of the international simcards (ekit, tru, maxroam, united, travelsim, telna, planetsim, onesimcard etc) we now tend to conclude that camelmobile is the best overall value for money option and most promising roaming product availiable on current market.
except their very competitive rates and services, we're impressed with their customer support (both sales & technical) and with their fully functional ONLINE MANAGEMENT ACCESS (http://manager.camelmobile.com)

dg7feq 26-04-2012 08:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsotirop (Post 39319)
Bossman read above post..


no, i'm a customer of them. i'm an IT engineer specialized on telec.services.
the company i work for, have order 4test simcards from them, our testing trials (running approx.1month)

i am constantly doing the same for our developers and customers fleet cards ;-) At the moment we are doing fine with XXSim but the camel card for sure is another good option.

Chris

fsotirop 26-04-2012 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsotirop (Post 39297)
this is the new-reduced-pricelist of all their services (roaming voice, roaming data, roaming sms, roaming voice bundles & sip calling) :
https://rapidshare.com/files/1501317...ail_1apr12.xls

outgoing calls within european union are charged per second (with a minimum of 30sec).
incoming calls within european union countries are charged per second with no minimum duration.
sms sent from an eu country to another eu country is charged with 0.11eur/sms.
sip calling billing per second!

receiving calls in the USA is free and outgoing rates from USA to all over the world at 0.35eur per minute !

new link directly for their website: http://www.camelmobile.com/assets/files/csv/rates.pdf

fsotirop 28-04-2012 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg7feq (Post 39333)
i am constantly doing the same for our developers and customers fleet cards ;-) At the moment we are doing fine with XXSim but the camel card for sure is another good option.

Chris

yes, it seems like it's at least interesting to viewers, that's why this camelmobile thread which was created on 27-03-2012 ,so is only 30days old and has almost 5000 hits/views.


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