Looks like they are now charging a BIT more for callback to Lichtenstein MOBILE, even though the country code stays the same, the cost is up?

How much is that BIT? :)

I don't quite understand the comment - the published tariff has been the same since March at least.

Don't know where you got that from...the web site still clearly shows the same rate as it has been.

I thought it was .12$ to 423, now they show a mobile rate too, .14$ or have they added a .12 rate to lich?

calls to my lichtenstein mobile are now ringing at .18$

CBW was 14?/minute US on CBW and 12?/minute on Enlinea from Liechtenstein to USA....has this changed? Not apparently on the cbw web site; havenit checked enlinea.

The word BIT needs to be replaced by LOT: Liechtenstein Mobile to USA = 0.43 USD/min. Similar price adjustments for other destinations. What a bummer!

Just checked.
Enlinea Mango plan is in fact 0.43 USD.
But Enlinea Papaya is 0.21 USD and Callbackworld is still 0.14.

I phoned up, and he missed a chance to suggest the Papaya product.

... worth keeping an eye on .......

But, in fact I couldn't find a 12 cents rate US to FL1 in Enlinea anymore :(

er sorry, yes, I omitted to actually say that he confirmed the 12 to 43c increase - part of the Enlinea site was offline when I called (but their mirror site still had the old rate)

I was thinking it was odd he didn't promote the [now] cheaper alternative - worth keeping an eye on that and CBW I meant

Hmm, I subscribed to Enlinea at the beginning of December (Mango plan, then 12 cents to FL). However, I didn't use this service because callbacks to my phones were unstable and, moreover, I didn't get a password so I couldn't see an online billing.
BTW, they charged my card on 7th Dec for 3.33 USD (I don't know for what!). Now I'm trying to explain what's going on with their CC.

In general, I'm disappointed with Enlinea :(.

My CC was charged with 5 USD shortly after registration. They claimed it was a mistake as they only wanted to do a pre-authorization but instead charged my CC. They did however reverse the charge so in the end it all worked out OK.

Uh, dwayne when I wrote BIT there had been no change to the enlinea pricing for FL.

Now, it appears our love is lost and the prices are indeed UP UP UP.

Indeed, if enlinea has gone up this much they are pretty much a no go for this option.

What is the papaya plan? Is that the same thing?

Look here: http://www.enlinea.com/rates.html
or, click the CallMe Rates in the menu on the left on their website.

Look here: http://www.enlinea.com/rates.html
or, click the CallMe Rates in the menu on the left on their website.

What am I looking for? The rates there seem to be the same higher rates?

did P think you were looking for the Papaya product?

both Mango and Papaya are on that page - one charges 43c, one 21c

Exactly, that's what I meant.
But no more 12 cents :(

I guess I will switch now to CBW

But the question remains, how much longer will CBW stay at 14?/minute???? Since it is apparent they use the same internet lines to set up the callbacks either enlinea just went bonkers to increase prices or their providers raised the price which presumably would mean CBW is next.

You know guys, be careful with what you post. I just got back from my annual trip in January and covered Germany, Austria, Italy, Switzerland, France and the UK..and when I read the board while on holiday I was horrified and stopped using enlinea and went with cbw.

I just checked the on line billing and am looking at it right now...when using riiing to access a number in the USA you are charged from Liechtenstein to the USA...my online billing clearly shows I was charged 12?/minute as late as 09 January; as a matter of fact I used the Iceland number (O9?) on enlinea and was billed 10?/minute to call from Iceland (no matter where I was roaming) to the United States....please be careful to make sure you are posting correct information....looking at my bill right now on 09 January I called from riiing to a US toll free number (irrelevent to the billing) for 4 minutes 12 seconds and was charged 51? US....I stopped using enlinea and went to CBW based on what I had read....

My last call on enlinea was on 15 January from the Iceland number (country code 354) to a USA toll free number, exactly 3 minutes for 30? US....

Don't know where you guys got the 42? nonsense from (USA to Liechtenstein?)...the calls guys are Liechtenstein to the USA (or Iceland to the USA with the other sim)....

BTW for the record, both enlinea and cbw for the most part functioned fairly well, couple of non callbacks and bad connections but many of the connections were excellent.

Part of the confusion is caused because the various callback companies show different rates for landlines and mobiles, but 09 in particular is currently mostly charged at landline rates (i.e. a billing error - nice, but may not last).

I thought I'd got the best callback deal to the 09 phone with CBW (11.3c/min) but looks likes enlinea is currently better. However, CBW is charging 09 as a landline, but if they start charging it as a mobile it goes up to 15c (and enlinea goes up to 18c which would put CBW back in the lead).

Globalphone (which was more reliable) charged me 14.7c/min (to UK), the landline rate, but if they charged it as a mobile it would jump to 54c!

So basically the only answer is try a test call and check online billing (and then recheck from time to time in case numbers get reclassified as mobiles!).

Did you manage to make outgoing calls with the 09 phone, or did you have to use a second phone to trigger the callback? Did the 092 "check balance" work anywhere?

BTW as I said in another thread, O9 did not register in Switzerland; haven't checked their web site if Switzerland is listed as a roaming location.

Anyway, as I remember, I had to use another phone to trigger the o9 and I did not make any outgoing calls per se with O9.

I know its not a CBW thread and I'll probably post this elsewhere, but....

CBW is really highly unreliable lately. It used to work pretty well in Germany but now can't even get call backs here. Hopeless in the rest of the world. Once in a while it comes through, but the vast majority of the time over the last two weeks I"ve gotten no call backs when triggering the number. The few times it works the quality of the call is poor and nearly unusuable. I've had to use by Riiing card straight through almost all the time.

I was hoping the Enlinea would work better but it sounds like its either no deal or works equally bad as CBW. Oh well, it was a good idea and maybe will work better in the future. For now, don't hold your breath.

O9 doesn't list Switzerland as a roaming country. Odd!

So O9 didn't work for making calls anywhere? There seem to be conflicting reports as to what countries it works in (if any) for outgoing calls (I'm limited to only two countries to test it in at the moment, doesn't work in either of these - USA/Mex).

O9 is good deal with callback (and a second phone) while callbacks to Iceland +354 3 remain low cost.

Difficult to see how they can sustain a business though when no outbound calls are possible (but maybe it's intentional, to give them time until they can work out how to do recharges...)

Matha531,

Enlinea just changed the rates probably in the last few days. I am 100% sure it was 42 cents about a week ago or so. The rates that andy posted above were 100% correct as of that date. I went to the website and verified it. I bet if you ask somepne at Enlinea the'll probably tell you that it may have been changed in error or so.

Bossman...

When I saw the post sometime around 09 January I did go to the enlinea web site and checked to verify what was being said and indeed I did see 42?....but what I don't remember was whether I was checking Liechtenstein to USA or USA to Liechtenstein...USA to Liechtenstein did come across on one call as 42? on a call I made using the enlinea 800 service (I was trying to clear out voicemail from the callback calls on enlinea and cbw which didn't reach me...I use it once a trip to avoid the 9 month rule and after that don't).

Oh well...let's not kick a gift horse in the mouth.

I don't know...I found cbw and enlinea to both be pretty reliable on this past trip although several times I had to resort to the 2nd phone to trigger calls.