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frenchfry 21-01-2010 18:34

New World Sim Company truphone.com
 
Website
truphone.com

News
Truphone Intros 'Local Anywhere SIM' (Phone Scoop)

Looks like there rates from the USA to UK are the only good rates. I think that I will keep an eye on them.

Stu 23-01-2010 17:41

Check back in a couple of months on this one and see where they are at. I expected them to launch with more than two countries.

JohnCK 28-01-2010 14:46

I sense another round of fund raising coming!!

This is only appealing for UK travelling to US or vice versa and is NOT a money saving roaming SIM card.

Using Economy Call back rate:

UAE

Receive £0.60
To UK landline and mobile £1.19.

EU

Receive £0.18
To UK landline and mobile £0.35.

US (No call back available)

Receive £0.50
To UK landline and mobile £0.75.

These figures are no cheaper than your normal MNO!

Based on the fact that Truphone announced this at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona in February 2009 you may want to check back in a little over two months. Getting such agreements in place with other Operators requires a lot of technical development, commercial negotiations and does take considerable time.

andy 29-01-2010 10:14

It was certainly my impression this was first rumoured about a year ago, about the same time they increased quite a few tariffs on their existing product.

Sophia 30-01-2010 04:40

I can't find one thing... is there a required top up (monthly, yearly?) or is there no expiry date?

albino 01-02-2010 19:07

I remember Awayphone tried the multi number thing a year or two ago - they closed down after they found it wasn't possible. United Mobile tried it too and failed. Sim4Travel said they would have it for sure two years ago, but didn't.

My Ekit Sim seems to be the first to have it, but only two numbers, a US and and a UK one, although unfortunately it doesn't work that well and not as cheap as the single number Sim

Would be cool if someone could figure it out... and actually have it running reliably before they send out "Coming soon" newsletters!

Moshe 06-02-2010 22:31

So far seems like Truphone is more interested in splashy announcements and events than delivering best prices and services. Was intrigued at first but as said above, seems like a lot of stuff done for sake of raising investment and not to provide world class service to customers ... hoping they improve once funding is secured (if it is).

petkow 22-02-2010 21:59

I just read on another forum that they are now giving away free SIM's which come loaded with 5 GBP or 7.50 US$ of call credit.

See: Truphone Local Anywhere - Find out more

Apparantly the promo code to enter is F23T5J, though that may well be a referral code of the person who was mentioning it on that form.

RTuesday 22-02-2010 23:51

Thanks for that information. Maybe they intended one promo code per user (like an "invite") so although I've ordered a card (US address) it'll be interesting to see if they get too many requests.

I can't find any information about validity and expiry either (but at a price of zero I'll take a chance on that). US prices (from the US, at the "local" rates) are fine, especially to international landlines.

But the roaming rates are weird - some are very high (Mexico), on some the "standard" rate is cheaper than callback (France, Spain, calling US) and some are just plain garbled (Cook Islands - I think it sort of implies texts and data only, no voice, probably an error).

(edit) in the T&C it has "We shall be offering the Truphone Local Anywhere SIM card and its services (the Product) to all Truphone customers and SIM4Travel customers (Customers) who have given Truphone prior consent to use their personal data for marketing purposes (Offer)." - so it's probably only valid for existing customers.

Stu 23-02-2010 01:15

I've been more pleased with eKit than albino. Their second IMSI is handy for the US and Canada. Truphone's VOIP always priced themselves too high. It was a good product, but they were competing against British mainstream carriers. That was it.

rfranzq 23-02-2010 07:33

Free SIM are for people they emailed.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by petkow (Post 31184)
I just read on another forum that they are now giving away free SIM's which come loaded with 5 GBP or 7.50 US$ of call credit.

See: Truphone Local Anywhere - Find out more

Apparantly the promo code to enter is F23T5J, though that may well be a referral code of the person who was mentioning it on that form.


I called them and they said the free SIM promo was for people they sent an email to with the promo code.

petkow 23-02-2010 11:48

Ah OK. SO I presume I will not get that free SIM I ordered with that code above, as at least a 1000 people have probably used the same promo code! :(

andy 23-02-2010 12:25

hmmm, having just looked back through some emails (to last Wednesday), I think I can confirm that the codes ought to differ

Sophia 23-02-2010 19:20

I think you have to make one call a month to keep it active, though I find their site very confusing and vague. Rates go up and down (up, up, up, mostly, actually). At first Canada rates was $.75 per minute and $1 per 1mb data, which was quite good, now it's $1.05/m and almost $3/mb... not so attractive anymore. USA local has gone up from $.10/m to $.15/m as well... anybody got their card yet? Does it work with Google Voice?

easyroam- 26-02-2010 15:51

Truphone new 07408 sim card
 
Truphone has released there new "LOCAL" sim card. The mobile number used for the UK is now 074088 xxxxx.
This has a FM5 charge band.:eek: This is a higher call rate than there original truphone 079788 number (FM3) :nono:

So if you intend to use there data service to logon to truphone or use there roaming service, Looking at there rates as this could work out very expensive. NO FREE ROAMING :flush:

BT PRICE PLAN

- -- - Day - Evening - Weekend
fm1 - 12.41 - 11.74 - 3.61
fm2 - 24.01 - 17.03 - 7.65
fm3 -14.53 - 7.84 - 6.97
fm4 -13.33 - 10.84 - 5.88
fm5 -15.44 - 8.03 - 5.01
fm6 -21.54 - 16.11 - 3.93
fm7 -14.91 - 8.41 - 7.15

Just to note that we www.travelsim.co.uk use a FM1 charge band

Sophia 01-03-2010 18:30

I received the local sim card a few days ago. I'm happy with it so far, at least you can call and be called :) It is roaming on Rogers. A few observations/questions:
- I haven't managed to get data to work. I set it to "use data when roaming", but it won't connect to the Internet at all. I'd like it to work for emergencies... any ideas?
- Google Voice does not work with it, or at least it won't accept the voicemail option. Not a big deal really. I have not tried to call using GV yet.

So far, so good. I always wanted a cellphone without any subscriptions or ties. Here in Canada even prepaid cards force you to top up your card once a month with at LEAST $10, and you get all kinds of extra fees such as 911 access (mandatory fee), and number recognition/voicemail/call waiting (optional).

Now, with these international roaming cards, With these you have only one obligation and that is make one call a month to have it stay active. Now, let's hope Truphone doesn't go belly-up like some others...

easyroam- 04-03-2010 15:10

Would a Canadian local sim be a better choice ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia (Post 31285)
I received the local sim card a few days ago. I'm happy with it so far, at least you can call and be called

You do know you have a inbound call charge of $0.70 per minute and to call within Canada will be $1.25 per minute.

999, 112, 911 services or any other emergency service is not available

Would a Canadian local sim be a better choice ?

dg7feq 04-03-2010 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by easyroam- (Post 31334)
999, 112, 911 services or any other emergency service is not available

i'm wondering how this could not be available - i mean this even works if you toast your SIM card... :-)
Chris

Sophia 04-03-2010 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by easyroam- (Post 31334)
Would a Canadian local sim be a better choice ?

No! :p

Even with the obligatory 1 call a month, in that case I only pay $1.05 per minute (not yet $1.25 thank goodness). It seems to calculate by the second as well, so it would probably be less than that.

Apart from that, I hate hate HATE the local companies here, period. I'm a spoiled European! I don't want to be FORCED to pay $10 top-up whether I need it or not, or lose my number! As WELL as pay $0.45 per month obligatory emergency fee, as WELL as tax, as WELL as pay seperately for call waiting, voicemail and call display, never seen such a rip off.

I cannot imagine why 911 would not work, though I have not tested it yet, for obvious reasons. However even without a simcard, it says "emergency calls only", I thought being able to make emergency calls was pretty much a given in any country.

snidely 05-03-2010 03:58

Could be wrong, but i thot you could dial 112 or 911 even w.o. a SIM installed.

easyroam- 06-03-2010 17:14

911 -999
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by snidely (Post 31339)
Could be wrong, but i thot you could dial 112 or 911 even w.o. a SIM installed.

Yes you can dial emergency services without the sim card, but I guess due to truphones call-back settings they may have blocked emergency services.


Sim card and credit will expire if not use !
Quote:

In the event that you do not use the SIM card or the call balance components on your account is zero for any continuous period of 180 days, we reserve the right to invalidate the SIM card and/or call balance components and cancel your account and Services without prior notice and without any refund, repayment or compensation

To use truphones local anywhere you have to pay a monthly fee.
Quote:

In order to receive these local call rates you must purchase a monthly local rate option. You can either purchase a local rate option prior to your departure or when you arrive in a country where Truphone has local rates, you may receive an automated text message giving you the option to purchase local call rates at such time.

7.5The monthly option fees can be found on our Website

7.6The monthly local rate option fee is a rolling monthly prepayment fee which shall automatically be charged to your nominated debit/credit card on the first day of the each month unless you notify us by calling customer services on 707 or in writing (by means of post, fax or e-mail) that you do not want to continue with the local rate option. Any cancellation of the local rate option shall take effect at the end of the month in with the notice of cancellation was given to us and any monthly prepayment debited from your chosen card will not be refundable when you cancel the option part way through the month.

7.7If you decide to cancel the monthly fee for the local rate option then you will not be able to take advantage of the local rates when travelling to that country to which the local rate option originally applied until you again choose to sign up for the local rate option. You can do this online or by replying to our text advising you of the local option.

Sophia 06-03-2010 17:41

Quote:

Sim card and credit will expire if not use !
I said that, one phone call a month. Obviously you will need credit for that. It is normal for any company to have your card expire if you don't use it for a certain time period, 180 days short, but not entirely unreasonable.

Quote:

To use truphones local anywhere you have to pay a monthly fee.
Nope, you got that wrong actually, that is if you buy a LOCAL number.

"In order to receive these local call rates you must purchase a monthly local rate option."

Notice the difference?

As for 911, I cannot and will not try it, but I simply don't believe you... I can't believe any sim company would block it without getting in trouble with the law.

Look, I understand you are trying to sell your own sim, but please get your facts straight... ;) I'm not defending any company, Truphone means nothing to me, but I can't stand spreading half truths and slander...

Stu 06-03-2010 17:53

Isn't Ekit's passport a better deal for Canada? Get a cheap Canadian DID or a free US one and forward it to their UK number for US $0.09 a minute from siptraffic.

US$100 will get you a year's service on TMobile USA which can be used in Canada for 45 US cents a minute.

Sophia 06-03-2010 18:03

Thanks, worth looking into I guess... :)

adam917 07-03-2010 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 31356)
Isn't Ekit's passport a better deal for Canada? Get a cheap Canadian DID or a free US one and forward it to their UK number for US $0.09 a minute from siptraffic.

US$100 will get you a year's service on TMobile USA which can be used in Canada for 45 US cents a minute.

T-Mobile USA's roaming rates in Canada are 69 cents/minute, not 45.

Sophia 11-03-2010 18:52

One thing I must say about Truphone: their data rates are not bad at all. I played with that yesterday, looked up a few web pages, checked email, logged into Nimbuzz, and total cost was $0.22. For emergency emails and web surfing, this will certainly do :)

mingelli 12-03-2010 11:00

Sophia

What kind of speed do you get in data downloading with
The sim in Canada. Is it 3g speed or much lower?

easyroam- 12-03-2010 11:14

911
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia (Post 31355)
As for 911, I cannot and will not try it, but I simply don't believe you... I can't believe any sim company would block it without getting in trouble with the law.

Have a look at truphones terms and conditions. They clearly state that you cannot use 911, 112, 999 emergency services on there sim card. :o

easyroam- 12-03-2010 11:17

911
 
Quote:

Sophia;31355
As for 911, I cannot and will not try it, but I simply don't believe you... I can't believe any sim company would block it without getting in trouble with the law.
You can test the number. call 911 and see if it connects and if it does, just say sorry I pressed the number by mistake. I was cleaning the phone.

mingelli 12-03-2010 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 31356)
Isn't Ekit's passport a better deal for Canada? Get a cheap Canadian DID or a free US one and forward it to their UK number for US $0.09 a minute from siptraffic.

US$100 will get you a year's service on TMobile USA which can be used in Canada for 45 US cents a minute.


Stu

How do you forward the did number to Ekit I'm number using
SIPTraffic? Can you explain how you to this.

Sophia 12-03-2010 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by mingelli (Post 31449)
Sophia

What kind of speed do you get in data downloading with
The sim in Canada. Is it 3g speed or much lower?

Much lower, it's only EDGE, but then again I don't think where I am right now there is any 3g available at all, it's rather out in the bush and I was surprised to get a signal at all, but in a few weeks I'll be traveling to Europe and will post an update then :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by easyroam- (Post 31450)
Have a look at truphones terms and conditions. They clearly state that you cannot use 911, 112, 999 emergency services on there sim card. :o

Easyroam, I'm truly not sure what you are trying to prove here... :nono: Are you that desperate for customers that you need to badmouth the competition?

Here: Cheap Calls using VoIP with Truphone - Your Mobile VoIP Provider

In particular:

Quote:

7.13
If you are in an area where your Truphone is searching for a wireless signal or there is no wireless signal or wireless service, it is highly probable that a call to 911 will not go through. Do not rely solely on your Truphone in an emergency situation. In an emergency, locate the nearest landline phone and call for help.
Now, where exactly does it clearly state that you cannot use emergency calls on their sim card?

Quote:

Originally Posted by easyroam- (Post 31451)
You can test the number. call 911 and see if it connects and if it does, just say sorry I pressed the number by mistake. I was cleaning the phone.

You MUST be joking... :-x

dg7feq 12-03-2010 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia (Post 31457)
You MUST be joking... :-x

not really. at least here in germany no emergeny dispatcher will argue with you if you simply tell them that you wanted to make sure that the 911 service will work with this phone.
Better than finding out that it doesnt work when you will eventually (hopefully never) need it...

Chris

Sophia 12-03-2010 22:50

Haha, well it's a bit of a silly "argument" really... point is Truphone does NOT say it doesn't work, and I see no reason to take 'm to task just for the sake of proving some dealer wrong who is trying to spread untruths... :)
But by all means, somebody take 'm to task if it's that important, me, I have lived without a cell phone most of my life and still consider it a decadent luxury to some degree, not to mention it stops working 5 minutes out of town where we live due to no cell towers, no emergency can compete with THAT :D

snidely 13-03-2010 01:49

I am willing to bet you can connect to 911, 112 etc with ANY SIM card - even one long dead. I know you can here (US). Also, don't at least some phones allow you to connect w.o. any SIM?

Sophia 13-03-2010 04:10

I think they all do, snidely, and that is why I call BS on that statement, as well as a few other lies in this thread that were easily proven wrong. I really don't understand why some people feel the need to kick others in order to promote their own products... it sure makes the choice easy whose SIMs I shall never buy!

andy 13-03-2010 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by snidely (Post 31465)
I am willing to bet you can connect to 911, 112 etc with ANY SIM card - even one long dead. I know you can here (US). Also, don't at least some phones allow you to connect w.o. any SIM?

This varies quite a bit between countries. In some, making emergency calls without a SIM card is not possible.

This includes the UK, where in addition it has only fairly recently (last October) been made possible for the phone to roam to a different network to make an emergency call.

Germany recently made it necessary to have a SIM card in the phone, to reduce prank calls

It is said that in some other countries, credit is needed on a valid SIM, though the call is free.

rfranzq 14-03-2010 07:59

Some good news: TRUPHONE SIM CARD
 
There are some TRUPHONE LOCAL ANYWHERE CALL SIM CARD being sold for $3.99 on eBay. No shipping. And $7.50 credit.

Sophia 15-03-2010 01:22

Great :) I saw Australia got added too as local place, so the ones heading there are in a bit of luck then :D

rfranzq 15-03-2010 04:45

Just so you know.......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rfranzq (Post 31481)
There are some TRUPHONE LOCAL ANYWHERE CALL SIM CARD being sold for $3.99 on eBay. No shipping. And $7.50 credit.

Since there might be some here who have now bought more than one SIM card: I asked the seller if, "Is there a time limit for activating the SIM?"
Quote:

Yes, there is a time limit for activating. Within 14 days of receipt or within 30 days of dispatch from Truphone or their distribution partner. Normally, it take 10 - 15 business days to the U.S

RTuesday 27-03-2010 01:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by petkow (Post 31184)
they are now giving away free SIM's which come loaded with 5 GBP or 7.50 US$ of call credit.

I've just received the free sim, with $7.50 in calling credit on it (sent to a US address). (thanks for mentioning the offer).

Activated it OK on the website. I could choose a US number for it at activation time. Pick a state and you're given a number to either accept or roll the dice again. After a few tries I got a reasonable 213 Los Angeles number (appears to be from a T-mobile block).

Prices look excellent in the US, but in Mexico it only roams on Movistar (not Telcel) and the prices are too high for any use (as I knew, it's for other countries). Roaming doesn't seem to be seamless, had to manually select a network each time, wasn't picked up on an automatic search. Received a test SMS from Google Voice OK (free), sent a reply OK - but the outgoing sms was billed 15% higher than the website prices. (they do say the prices exclude tax, but it is unclear what taxes if any would apply in this case).

I noticed there was no email address, online chat, or web form ticket system when I went to the web site to ask about the rate difference. Seems it's phone calls only (which is a bit tricky if your support request involves not being able to phone!). I haven't tried a support call as it's unclear whether that is chargable.

Next time I'm in the US I'll test it properly. That's if sending one sms a month will avoid the (undefined) inactivity fee, the terms do say it has to be a "call" each month.

Rob


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