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rfranzq 16-06-2009 23:39

SIMple Calling SIM card coverage in the hinterlands
 


When one looks at the AT&T's Prepaid coverage maps, one sees very little coverage in the 'Far West.' Montana, Wyoming, North and South Dakota have almost nothing. Nebraska, Colorado, and Nevada have almost nothing except their biggest cities. New Mexico and Arizona are the same.
T-Mobile's Prepaid coverage map seems to have a lot of coverage but requires roaming and one needs to make sure one has a US dual band phone to take advantage of all the roaming.

SIMple Calling claims better coverage than both and now that it has dual [USA & UK] phone numbers and international roaming it might be a good option for those who need modest US/Canada rates and good prepaid coverage in North America. [I have seen others on the forums claim [which I have not verified] that the rates are cheaper than Canadian predaid SIM's rates in the USA. So the SIMple Calling SIM card seems
to be a good option for both European and North American users of prepaid SIMs.

I will post below some coverage reviews in different states & hope others can add to it.

My nephew is on a road trip to South Dakota from Los Angeles and will investigate for me how two SIMple Calling SIM SIMs do in the hinterlands. Which networks besides ATT and T-Mobile will be a major focus.

Happy Roaming!

rfranzq 16-06-2009 23:47

Wyoming
 
Wyoming

Wyoming is the 10th largest state and the least populous [50th!] state in the USA.

The SIMple Calling SIM card connect to Union Telephone Company in Wyoming. Union Telephone Company covers a lot of Wyoming and bits of Utah and Idaho, and a chunk of NW Colorado.


UT GSM World coverage map

UT GSM World roaming partner list

Union Telephone Company Coverage maps


Their 'Home' map has an interesting feature I have not seen in other coverage maps. The legend has 'In-building & Outdoor Coverage' and 'Outdoor Coverage' colorings.

PhotoJim 17-06-2009 03:05

There's still a need for a phone that supports GSM 850 with this product too. Otherwise you are quite right that it is a good choice.

The advantage of T-Mobile is that $100 in it lets you keep it going for $10 a year. Therefore, for very low-minute users it is the most cost-effective solution at the expense of some coverage. (For example, AT&T has a much better network in New York City than T-Mobile does, although T-Mobile is alright.)

adam917 22-06-2009 20:57

Do the new dual-US/UK SIMs allow you to use the 3G networks as well? This may be important down the road as the operators expand 3G coverage. There may even be areas w/o 2G that could have 3G. My single SIMple Calling SIM allows me to roam on just 2G for AT&T & T-Mobile (though w/ T-Mobile, I do not have an unlocked device w/ AWS band to test their 3G network).

VladS 23-06-2009 01:43

Can't speak for the SIMple Calling SIM, but the dual IMSI Passport SIM would not roam on the Rogers 3G network.

RTuesday 29-06-2009 02:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam917 (Post 27927)
My single SIMple Calling SIM allows me to roam on just 2G for AT&T & T-Mobile

Thanks for mentioning that, I hadn't noticed the Simple Calling doesn't work on 3G - mainly because I'm rarely in areas with 3G coverage! Tonight though I'm in a town that has an excellent AT&T 3G signal - works fine on 7-11 Speakout - but the Simple Calling (US/Canada edition) won't register on 3G (fine on GSM).

I really doubt there will be any areas with 3G coverage but not 2G, but if Simple Calling ever gets data 3G would be helpful. Another use might be during a disaster, if the 3G has more capacity than 2G.

adam917 29-06-2009 02:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTuesday (Post 28092)
Thanks for mentioning that, I hadn't noticed the Simple Calling doesn't work on 3G - mainly because I'm rarely in areas with 3G coverage! Tonight though I'm in a town that has an excellent AT&T 3G signal - works fine on 7-11 Speakout - but the Simple Calling (US/Canada edition) won't register on 3G (fine on GSM).

I really doubt there will be any areas with 3G coverage but not 2G, but if Simple Calling ever gets data 3G would be helpful. Another use might be during a disaster, if the 3G has more capacity than 2G.

I hope they do decide to add 3G roaming on it as that will be important in the coming years after more users migrate to 3G & more sites become 3G, especially with T-Mobile's AWS sites & the whole new Bell & Telus networks coming about in Canada which will be 3G-only and could fill in some huge gaps in the Canadian GSM/UMTS footprint that Rogers never addressed, such as the Territories & Maritimes.

RTuesday 01-07-2009 01:34

Oregon-California border - Edge Wireless
 
The Simple Calling sim is roaming fine today on Edge Wireless in Gold Beach, Oregon (30 miles north of California). Voicemail and balance shortcodes work OK.

Coverage map (also covers SE Idaho): Edge Wireless :: Coverage Areas

There is supposed to also be some AT&T coverage here but it doesn't exist in this part of town.

rfranzq 01-07-2009 07:54

Thanks for the addition.
 
Thanks. I lived in Portland, Oregon for about 25 years ending in 2004 and I had never heard of Edge until I left.

RTuesday 08-07-2009 01:28

3G roaming (on AT&T) worked for me yesterday, in Reno NV.

RTuesday 09-07-2009 04:11

The Simple Calling sim roams all down US 95 in western Nevada (Reno to LV) on a network just identified as "roaming".

In some of the "urban" areas like Tonopah and Beatty it also roams on Commnet - which is suprising as the commnet website Commnet Wireless doesn't currently show any coverage in NV.

adam917 09-07-2009 09:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTuesday (Post 28395)
The Simple Calling sim roams all down US 95 in western Nevada (Reno to LV) on a network just identified as "roaming".

In some of the "urban" areas like Tonopah and Beatty it also roams on Commnet - which is suprising as the commnet website Commnet Wireless doesn't currently show any coverage in NV.

Interesting. I wonder if anyone has made a map showing all GSM coverage in the US (not just AT&T or just T-Mobile but a vcombined map showing those & the other operators' coverage on one map). I hear from too many CDMA buffs that CDMA 'has more coverage' than GSM and it would be nice to actually see some maps & maybe stats to do a comparison. I'm guessing that even though GSM was late to the US compared to elsewhere in the world and compared to CDMA, by now the level of coverage GSM has has to be about on par with CDMA. Sure there are likely to be some spots one has coverage and the other doesn't, but that's expected.

PhotoJim 09-07-2009 16:47

I can assure you that GSM isn't yet on par with CDMA in the US. It's improving rapidly but it has a ways to go.

If you'd like evidence, check out the Verizon CDMA coverage of North Dakota versus the GSM coverage provided by AT&T (almost none) and T-Mobile (none, but there is some GSM roaming coverage that CDMA provider Alltel has installed).

I'm finding that GSM is more and more usable there, but there are parts of the US where you would not want to use GSM as your primary coverage.

rfranzq 09-07-2009 18:16

I wish there was a map...............
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adam917 (Post 28397)
I wonder if anyone has made a map showing all GSM coverage in the US (not just AT&T or just T-Mobile but a vcombined map showing those & the other operators' coverage on one map).


Well, I havn't found it. If you go to GSM world for coverage maps, you will find that many of the GSM providers don't have maps. And I have never clicked through to their web sites to see if they have any there. Someone with too much time should try <g>.

[ekit claims there are 58 GSM providers in the USA. I suspect there are less with the recent mergers. And who is Manx North America [or whatever it is called?!] I think there are a number of small providers that do provide coverage in the 'hinterlands'. It just is nearly impossible to find out about them online and only if your phone connects to them will you find out about them.

I will have a message about South Dakota and Colorado coverage in a few days.

rfranzq 11-07-2009 02:51

How many GSM networks in the USA?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rfranzq (Post 28408)
[ekit claims there are 58 GSM providers in the USA. I suspect there are less with the recent mergers.

Well I guess I will try to answer my own question. Using info from GSM World USA network page I counted 75 networks. Five are not on the 850/1900mHz frequencies, 7 are 'planned' and 3 have multiple listings for the same network. So 50 would seem to be the number of GSM networks from a easily accessed resource.

Having done some more research at GSM World one finds that some of the information is dated and some of the companies no longer exist or were bought out and then bought out again. So grain of salt is always wise.

rfranzq 11-07-2009 03:53

Colorado, Nebraska, and kinda South Dakota
 
I like the direction this thread has gone. If it becomes: "Who are the obscure GSM phone companies of the USA?" that would be neat.

North East Colorado Cellular does a suprisingly good job of Colorado and Nebraska if we can believe the maps:

North East Colorado Cellular, Inc (NECCI) (Viaero Wireless) - Coverage Map

Viaero local coverage


Now, coverage in South Dakota seems a lot more iffy.
A code USA-590 gave me Western Wireless Properties which had been bought by Alltel which is being consumed by Verizon. The last two are not GSM providers but GSM World has an Alltel map:

Alltel Communications Inc - Coverage Map

RTuesday 11-07-2009 04:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfranzq (Post 28408)
It just is nearly impossible to find out about them online and only if your phone connects to them will you find out about them.

Maybe there is some FCC licencing database that would show which markets are served by which companies, although it probably doesn't show the technology they use.

Like that mention of Alltel providing GSM roaming in ND, I had coverage from Unicel in Jackpot, NV (just south of Twin Falls, Idaho) about a month ago. They are now part of Verizon, so are presumably not a GSM company, but just make some roaming income by putting GSM on their towers.

BTW, apart from Reno, I haven't found anywhere else that the Simple Calling will roam on 3G. I wonder what is different about 3G in Reno?

adam917 11-07-2009 05:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTuesday (Post 28434)
Maybe there is some FCC licencing database that would show which markets are served by which companies, although it probably doesn't show the technology they use.

Like that mention of Alltel providing GSM roaming in ND, I had coverage from Unicel in Jackpot, NV (just south of Twin Falls, Idaho) about a month ago. They are now part of Verizon, so are presumably not a GSM company, but just make some roaming income by putting GSM on their towers.

BTW, apart from Reno, I haven't found anywhere else that the Simple Calling will roam on 3G. I wonder what is different about 3G in Reno?

Alltel used to be GSM and switched to CDMA, which Verizon later bought out. Alltel never converted all of their GSM towers over (likely because they could make money off roamers in areas that have no other GSM coverage).


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