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adam917 14-09-2008 18:50

Proper eKit data settings?
 
I noticed that eKit says on their site that data works in over 70 countries as of 1 September, however they do not indicate the correct settings users need to put into their phone in order to use the service.

My Nokia E61 seems to pick them up just fine upon power-on (it shows up as being from Manx Pronto, which I found out upon a Google search is an Isle of Man mobile telecom, Manx Telecom), however my primary device for this SIM is a generic watch phone, that requires a lot of various data in particular places.

Two examples I have for US operators follow:

AT&T MEdia Net WAP GPRS

APN: WAP.CINGULAR
Username: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM
Password: CINGULAR1
Homepage: http://device.home
Connection Type: WAP (IP Address: 66.209.11.61, Security: off)

T-Mobile USA T-Zones WAP GPRS

APN: wap.voicestream.com
Username & password are left blank
Authentication Type: Secure
Homepage: http://wap.myvoicestream.com/
Connection type: WAP (IP address: 216.155.165.50, Security: On)

If anyone knows how I can obtain the correct values to use (I have tried Manx' postpaid settings and they don't work), this thread may be a good place to post them at.

andy 15-09-2008 15:34

I hadn't realised they'd launched this. I think the tariffs could do with improvement

Can you phone their customer services and ask them to get the settings sent?

inquisitor 15-09-2008 16:05

Their site says "Set the Access Point Name (APN) to mobiledata"

So set the APN to "mobiledata", leave username and password blank and try which authentication type works (unsecured/PAP or secured/CHAP).

If a homepage has to be provided, just set http://www.google.com/m (that's the mobile version of Google).
And connection type should be HTTP, as they obviously don't require WAP-proxy-usage.

adam917 15-09-2008 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 23580)
Their site says "Set the Access Point Name (APN) to mobiledata"

So set the APN to "mobiledata", leave username and password blank and try which authentication type works (unsecured/PAP or secured/CHAP).

If a homepage has to be provided, just set http://www.google.com/m (that's the mobile version of Google).
And connection type should be HTTP, as they obviously don't require WAP-proxy-usage.

As soon as I select HTTP, I am asked for a proxy address & proxy port (and if I leave it empty, the phone says invalid address, it assumes 0.0.0.0 upon the blank field).

inquisitor 16-09-2008 13:47

Does your phone happen to be quite old and so not support WAP2.0/direct HTTP access? What's your model?

adam917 16-09-2008 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 23593)
Does your phone happen to be quite old and so not support WAP2.0/direct HTTP access? What's your model?

You're going to laugh when you hear this, but it's a watch phone. It's model # is M600. It's a generic Chinese device that does indeed have GPRS (works best with WAP sites) & I have used it with the GPRS I pick up just fine from AT&T & T-Mobile, however I need lots of manual settings (like what I shown above) entered unlike most modern devices. This watch phone also supports the (very old) GSM Data service, which is a dial-up data service.

I consider this watch phone to be a good device for emergency use, and with data rates on these int'l SIM cards as high as they are (I notice they are often as high as or even higher than roaming!!!), I do not plan to use data very much on this SIM card, but I believe it's nice to have it 'just in case'.

inquisitor 16-09-2008 19:27

Okay, Mr Bond.

I fear the browser of your secret weapon won't work without any WAP-proxy. In that case I have no solution for you unless eKit installs such and provides the necessary data. Does your watchphone have an eMail client? If so it should not require those WAP-proxy-settings and so should work with the given settings.

adam917 16-09-2008 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 23599)
Okay, Mr Bond.

I fear the browser of your secret weapon won't work without any WAP-proxy. In that case I have no solution for you unless eKit installs such and provides the necessary data. Does your watchphone have an eMail client? If so it should not require those WAP-proxy-settings and so should work with the given settings.

My watch phone doesn't have an e-mail client.

I have noticed that when I insert the SIM into my Nokia E61, it automaticallys picks up three profiles: Pronto Connect, Pronto Connect Web, & Pronto MMS.

I have tried entering these settings in the watch phone & still no dice.

inquisitor 16-09-2008 19:54

You could try the settings for MANX telecom, on whose network eKit is based on:

IP address/proxy: 10.0.3.101
port: 9201 or 80

adam917 16-09-2008 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 23601)
You could try the settings for MANX telecom, on whose network eKit is based on:

IP address/proxy: 10.0.3.101
port: 9201 or 80

Are the rest of the settings (APN/un/pw) the same?

VladS 16-09-2008 21:09

The eKit GPRS implementation doesn't use the Manx APN. You can try the following gateway compliments of the folks at Wap-Gateway (http://www.wap-gateway.com)

IP: 209.160.68.93
Port: 9200

inquisitor 16-09-2008 21:20

try it with these settings:

APN: mobiledata
username: blank
password: blank
IP: 209.160.68.93
port: 9200
connection type: ? (try all variants)
authentication type: ? (try all variants)

adam917 23-09-2008 17:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 23606)
try it with these settings:

APN: mobiledata
username: blank
password: blank
IP: 209.160.68.93
port: 9200
connection type: ? (try all variants)
authentication type: ? (try all variants)

Still doesn't work. I have other devices which require such settings when using anything but the branded phone's SIM, so it's not just this watch phone that requires these. Finding such settings on-line can be a real chore even for well-known operators probably because most modern devices can get the settings automatically over the air.

adam917 25-09-2008 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by VladS (Post 23604)
The eKit GPRS implementation doesn't use the Manx APN. You can try the following gateway compliments of the folks at Wap-Gateway (http://www.wap-gateway.com)

IP: 209.160.68.93
Port: 9200

Well what settings is it that my E61 acquired when it inserted my SIM? The profiles show up as Manx Pronto/Pronto MMS/etc similar names & do seem to work on the E61 (yet won't work on my other devices).

DL9HCI 28-10-2009 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam917 (Post 23597)
You're going to laugh when you hear this, but it's a watch phone. It's model # is M600. It's a generic Chinese device that does indeed have GPRS (works best with WAP sites) & I have used it with the GPRS I pick up just fine from AT&T & T-Mobile, however I need lots of manual settings (like what I shown above) entered unlike most modern devices. This watch phone also supports the (very old) GSM Data service, which is a dial-up data service.

I consider this watch phone to be a good device for emergency use, and with data rates on these int'l SIM cards as high as they are (I notice they are often as high as or even higher than roaming!!!), I do not plan to use data very much on this SIM card, but I believe it's nice to have it 'just in case'.

Dear adam917,
I just received a Chinese watch phone (W968),[the computer just turned the digit eight into a smiley face - the phone's name is W nine six eight], and I love everything about it. I just cannot get the WAP and MMS to work. I have tried to enter the information I found on other websites about homepage, username, password etc. - still no success. Here is what I do: I click on "Menu" - "Coonections" - "WAP", then I get several offers. Whenever I try to get to any homepage, I get an error message "Invalid..."
Could you please tell me how you got your watch phone to work with WAP and how to send MMS? I would greatly appreciate your help. Thank you!
Jens (DL9HCI)


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