Yackie Max
 

YackieMax???

... does anybody recognized their new hardware/software YACKIEMAX???

Incredible low prices of just a few cents per call. Does anybody have some informations about this new solution?

would indeed like to know more how it works as the yackie website is not real clear about it.

says it works with a local sim so I asume when outside your home country it does not work. just no callback, contract etc.

I can only assume they have e free local access number (like 1-800) in every country. The card sents a local id with that, the the access number recognizes that and knows which account to use. The chip just dials the 800 number automatically.

I can only assume this as the website does not say anything at all.

i will tell you about Yackie Max !!!

yackie max , work as sms gateway , it will send sms from your local sim card and Rings your phone as Call Back , if you travel from one country to another you should use a local Sim Card in each country , so The International SIM is better for sure :) .

amroe there system does not say anything about callback.

Also when it's a callback the rates are to low for that. For example ntherlands 4 cents meaning for those 4 cents it has to cover callback to a mobile phone and calling a fixed line.

In there rates is also says: *Additional local operator rates may apply

My guess is the sims is an automated system in the way that you just call the normal number like you do. The sim adds the local toll free 800 number before your number and a code so the systems knows who to bill.

My only concern is that some operators do charge for calling a 800 number even if it's free. That why they must have the: *Additional local operator rates may apply information.

My friend i don't assume , i have it in my hand and i had test it myself .

Hey Guys,
sorry ... I didn't really get it ...
Is this YackieMobile YACKIEMAX-simcard worth to buy ??

How does it exactly work ??

Is it an advantage for me to buy YACKIEMAX for usuage in the UK (as i travel to the UK 3-4 times a year ...) and the rest of Europe ... and I saw it has cheap rates for US-calls as well !?!

I'd use it with a conventional German simcard ...

THX - Tobsen2k

If it's an sms callback systems the info on their pages are false as they state no callback.

It also does not explain why they state: Additional local operator rates may apply. If you have a callback there are no additional local operator costs involved.

From the Yackiewebsite
Why would they write: if they use a callback system ?
My guess is still the sim calls a toll free number otherwise they would not have to write this in their terms.

Their rates also say this:

From everywhere to :

FRANCE: $0.04/mn
FRANCE-CELLULAR : $0.19/mn

If it was a callback system, this would mean that they would have to call a mobile french number, connect to a fixed line, all for 4 dollarcent per minute. This would wordwide be the absolute lowest rate for callback and calling a fixed number.

So my friend why do you think it's a callback and it sents an sms to a gateway. You tested it so explain how it works. You would be the first to write a review about it. It would be nice to know what caller id the called number will say.

@bbob

... Jesus Christ, WTF are you so offensive?

Can´t you just make a nice conversation?

You also just referring, theoretical theories of how it could be.

@Tobsen2k

... das System lohnt sich nur, wenn man in den Ländern in welchen man sich aufhält, die Einheimischen SIM Angebote nutzt. Andernfalls fallen noch die innereuropäischen Roamingkosten an. Vistream etc. lohnt sich also nicht mit der YackieMax.

Das dünne Plätchen welches in der Beschreibung zu sehen ist muß unter die SIM gelegt und das ganze dann im SIM Schacht platziert werden.

info from yackie:

Yes we can have a product for this scenario. Right now our yackiemax product works in CA and USA. Our next Gen will have 27 countries.

Matthew Eisenberg
Manager of Business Development
Pay Mobile Technologies Inc.
200 SW First Avenue, Suite 820, Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Office: 1-305-728-4718
Cell: 1-954-294-4122
Email: matthew@yackiemobile.com
Website: www.paymotech.com www.yackiemobile.com www.chronocash.com

I suspected it might be a dual SIM arrangement, and that comment may tend to confirm it's something like that. But the website really isn't clear enough.

Another company, perhaps even with the same supplier, recently launched a dual arrangement on a thin device like this, apparently to give visiting roamers cheap calls in their country.

In addition (I've recently discovered), the same company launched a product a bit over a year ago to enable a payment facility on another thin SIM-sized device . By coincidence, this was about the time Yackie started talking about such possibilities.

I might start a new thread about this when I've had time to look a bit more.

A guy on an Italian forum just bought it and this is what he received by mail:

I still think that bbob's ideas seem to be quite correct...
The Italian number is from Abbiategrasso town, district of Milan, and it's owned by Eutelia which is a landline and Voip provider which has some international calls offers.

Now I'm wondering if there may be two distinct but possibly linked products being described here, and the email reply from the firm to bbob isn't being illuminating about what's available right now

If I'm in the UK and attach this to a UK SIM card, what is it going to do? Is it a second ID which makes it's own outgoing calls? Is it a callthrough system using my existing SIM and automatically going to Yackie's access numbers?

If so, it's hardly an innovation that will make calling cards and other callthroughs redundant, as they claim. Until about September last year, some UK contracts were able to call plenty of foreign destinations via several series of access numbers that required no account or further payment. And there are still plenty which have landline access numbers and the customer tops up their account, where the CLI of the phone is recognised automatically. And if the networks gradually implement sanctions on these, this would be probably affected too.

I think you'll find it's call through and not call back.

This means that the call is interrupted and prevented from going the route that the operator specifies, dials instead a local access number and places the international leg at Yackie's rates.

This would also be why their product only works in the N American dialing code area.

Capn

Capn, this is what I had gueesed before.

Like Andy says in other countries there are paid access number you can call using your fixed phone. The numbers have a rate of say 5 eurocent, 10, 20 eurocents and depending on the access number you can call different destinations. Your normal carrier will bill you for calling to these number. In Holland typically these are 09xx numbers.

My idee remains yackie offer an automatic call through and you use your local sim to call a free access number. You have to call a local number to authenticate your phone so the systems knows your caller id or a number that the yackie card sents when making a call.

The problem with these numbers is that some carriers do charge you for calling to these free numbers. There are free numbers that will only accept calls from a fixed line and not from a cell phone.
Just check some dutch info and according to telecom regulation the law allows cell phone operators to charge for calling to a free 800 number in Holland. Not all operators will charge you, some might and some not.

This is the reason yackie has the clause that local charges can apply in their terms.

This site offers the same thing.

www.tokiva.com

GeoSIM allows local SIMs to be registered on its system and use SMS callback. Credit is drawn from the GeoSIM user account. This allows users to use the call credit where the GeoSIM has no covergae or high incoming call charges.

http://www.globalsimcard.co.uk/sms_callback.php