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mkenov 27-08-2008 04:54

3 - 12 Months in Europe
 
In mid-September I am embarking on an indefinite trip around Europe. I have no plans to stay in one place for very long and will be traveling all over by train.

I have purchased an unlocked 3G iPhone and plan on using this with a prepaid SIM. I don't plan on using voice very often as I will be using skype when possible. I just want a number that I can give friends and family back home for infrequent use and keep in touch with other travelers I meet along the way.

My criteria, in order of importance are as follows:

- compatibility with the iPhone 3G

- data plan:

++ I don't need the unlimited plan I am spoiled with at home now, but if there was a good uni-country data plan that allowed for roaming I would be seriously interested.
++ 3G access would be great.
++ Ability to tether phone is not very important, but would be a bonus.

- voice/SMS rates:

++ Incoming free would be nice but not necessary...
++ Cheap(ish) rates to Canada
++ Free incoming texts (if possible)

- price up front: I don't mind paying 50+ Euro for a SIM card if knowledgeable people such as yourselves recommend.

I thank you in advance for your replies!

Oh, here is a sample of countries I intend on visiting:

France, Belgium, Holland, Austria, Germany, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Poland, Czech, etc.

albino 27-08-2008 06:21

Hi mkenov,

I may be wrong but I believe that UnitedMobile are the only company doing cheap voice and data.

mkenov 27-08-2008 06:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by albino (Post 23333)
Hi mkenov,

I may be wrong but I believe that UnitedMobile are the only company doing cheap voice and data.

Thanks for the quick response - that's where I'm leaning right now. I take it there are no European carriers with reasonable data-roaming rates?

Also, any idea if UnitedMobile will allow me to take advantage off 3G (where available I suppose)?

dg7feq 27-08-2008 08:34

Lets compare:

UM charges 99ct/MB (100k increments) + 39ct/Session in the following countries:

France, Belgium, Holland, Austria, Germany, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Poland, Czech

AUSTRIA BULGARIA CROATIA DENMARK FINLAND GERMANY HUNGARY ITALY PORTUGAL SERBIA/MONTENEGRO SLOVENIA SPAIN SWEDEN SWITZERLAND UNITED KINGDOM

The german T-Mobile Xtra-payg card charges 1.9 Euro/MB (100k increments) +49ct/used day in all EU countries.

What else can collect here?

Chris

Effendi 27-08-2008 08:38

There are some good data plans all around Europe, but they usually work just on their country, not all around EU; unfortunately there are no "pan-EU" plans yet both for voice and data.

So I fear you really won't enjoy your iPhone capabilities much while roaming here around with a United Mobile card, also because data rates are quite high. If I were you I'd use a very basic GSM/3G phone here around rather than the iPhone. I also have no idea if it works well with UM's callback system. Consider that the iPhone often connects to internet also when you don't request it, and with UM it can cost you quite a lot of money.

In any case incoming calls and SMS are free of charge all around Europe. If you want cheaper rates buy local cards for each country where you go (but that means a different number every time). Otherwise go with UM (or ICQsim).

dg7feq 27-08-2008 09:30

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Originally Posted by Effendi (Post 23338)
There are some good data plans all around Europe, but they usually work just on their country, not all around EU; unfortunately there are no "pan-EU" plans yet both for voice and data.

Always depends what you count as cheap. The 1.9 Euro/MB on the t-mobile cards for all EU is not too bad compared with the others who usually go around 7-12 Euro/MB.

Chris

Bossman 27-08-2008 10:15

Also try to take advantage of the Iphones WiFi. Even though I do not think free WiFi is prevalent in those countries as it is here in the states and may be Canada for example.

dg7feq 27-08-2008 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossman (Post 23340)
Also try to take advantage of the Iphones WiFi. Even though I do not think free WiFi is prevalent in those countries as it is here in the states and may be Canada for example.

well there is a lot of wifi here but mostly very heavy charged commercial hotspots...

Chris

mkenov 27-08-2008 18:49

Thank you all for your help! Does anyone know if T-mobile Germany has an English language phone support line? I am having some difficulty navigating their site with Google translator.

mkenov 27-08-2008 19:26

I bought a United Mobile SIM. Data seems *reasonable* considering the alternatives. Thanks for all the help guys.

DRNewcomb 28-08-2008 01:14

The best plan may invoive two phones/SIMs:
1. A T-Mobile US postpaid international Blackberry plan can actually provide unlimited international data, even though it's not supposed to.
2. Any of the well known prepaid international SIMs can provide cheap voice service. Just pick the one that works best for you.

snidely 29-08-2008 19:20

To add to DRN's comment - T-M USA has two BB models that can connect via UMA. That means you can make free calls to/from the U.S., and data connection would also be free. You would, of course, need access to wifi.
We have had occasions where we are charged for data on TM overseas (as we should) on the intl. BB plan.)
If you use TM to roam via UMA connection - set the BB to connect only via UMA so you don't, accidentally connect via cellular and incur roaming charges.
TM's UMA option is GREAT.

...mike

andy 29-08-2008 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by snidely (Post 23381)
To add to DRN's comment - T-M USA has two BB models that can connect via UMA. That means you can make free calls to/from the U.S., and data connection would also be free. You would, of course, need access to wifi.

There might be a bit less wi-fi access, and even less of it free, than you hope.

snidely 30-08-2008 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy (Post 23389)
There might be a bit less wi-fi access, and even less of it free, than you hope.

Finding wifi is hit or miss. Lots of hotels now seem to offer it in many places we've been. And many coffee shops and restaurants. Of course if you are also visiting homes or offices, you'll usually get access there as well. I wouldn't count on this as a 24/7 option - but to use when you can - since it is free and the connection quality is usually very good. Works for us - altho since I am on an old T-Mobile plan where many countries are 30 cents/min. to roam, it isn't so critical for me.

...mike

DRNewcomb 30-08-2008 17:22

If you have a device that supports it, I suggest Boingo Mobile. There are thousands of hot spots available all over the world for a flat ~$8/mo. The only issue is finding them. Boingo's website is actually not friendly to mobile devices and only give you an address, not a geographic position. If you've never looked for a street address in Japan, you have no idea how frustrating it can be.

PhotoJim 30-08-2008 18:28

I thought no one had unlocked the iPhone 3G yet, so if this is still true, you won't be able to use your iPhone.


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