Japan gets a step closer
 

Every year I stop by the Vodafone (now SoftBank) kiosk and ask the same question, "Can I get a prepaid SIM?" The answer's always the same, "Not yet." This year there's a bit of a change. As of Feb 4th, SoftBank will start selling prepaid 3G service. The catch is that you have to buy the phone. They are taking orders now, but I can't find this information on their website.

Several catches for this offer...
 

Hi, DRNewcomb,

I read Softbank's Japanese press-release and also obtained additional info from other Japanese customers who recently asked Softbank's customer service.

They apparently mentioned that "detail of this offer will be further clarified after 2/4", but here is what I and other Japanese who live outside Japan are concerned.

Unfortunately, Softbank will most likely ask every prepaid customer to show passport AND "additional ID" (such as Japanese certificate as a visitor=you can apply this certificate seperately from your visa if you have visitor visa to stay in Japan longer than ~90days, or Japanese driver's license issued by Japanese police=NOT an international driver's license, etc). This rule is essentially the same when the current customer purchases their prepaid phone (non-GSM). This crazy rule was developed after numerous cases of abuse made by domestic "prepaid" cellphone users who Japanese police had difficulty in locating due to lack of record of their addresses. Please see my old posts for more details.

Unless Softbank changes this rule drastically (very unlikely, because the police puts lots of pressure on cellphone carriers about this rule), or the individual agent does not follow this rule (if police finds out = big punishment for the agent), essentially, this prepaid offer is not aimed for a foreign visitor who comes to Japan for sight-seeing (or very short-term stay).

I still maintain my Japanese driver's license and was able to purchase their prepaid phone in 2006, but I also heard several complaints made by Japanese living outside Japan whose driver's licenses were expired (and could not purchase prepaid cellphone).

I hope they may change the rule for this product, though...

(I need to update my signiture, please ignore my current SIM cards).

I agree that the ID requirements are a big hurdle for most visitors.

In the meanwhile, in March a 3rd WCDMA operator will start its voice services in Japan: Emobile. Unfortunately it's a W-CDMA 1700MHz, so it's the second after T-Mobile in the US to use this unusual frequency (another step farther for Japan and US from the rest of the World...). They will offer a flat rate on-net tariff, for the first time in Japan, and they have a roaming agreement with DoCoMo. So they will need dual band phones 1700/2100.

Well, it's not so bad :P So we will have finally a sixband* phone :lol:

* 850, 900, 1800, 1900 GSM + 1700, 2100 UMTS :wall:

you left out wi-fi and any future wimax band allocations

You also left out the original North American UMTS frequencies: 850 and 1900. Even though the bands are the same, the spectrum is not.

Soon to come are eightband phones, with wifi and wimax. And if they don't stop here and keep on adding more frequencies (the US 700MHz block is up for sale) we'll end up with phones the size of my old Motorola 8000 (aka the brick). http://images.pcworld.com/opinion/gr...ynaTac8000.jpg

The new Sony PDA phone (don't remember the name, but it is targeted at the iPhone head on) comes close, but the 1700mhz UMTs version doesn't include 900mhz UMTs, and the 900mhz version doesn't have 1700mhz. On the GSM side it is quad band.

Then again we are all forgetting about the 450mhz GSM which is out there.

UMTS 900 and GSM 450 are not working yet, AFAIK, so by now it's probably better to have the classic quad-band GSM and quad-band (850, 1700, 1900, 2100) on UMTS.

The quad GSM + UMTS-2100 phone works just about everywhere. I don't see much need for WCDMA on a bunch of different bands. Data roaming is just an inviatation for a trip to the poorhouse. High speed data roaming is the same in overdrive.

At the doors of most mobile phone shops in Thailand you see yellow GSM450 signs.
Assigned frequencies for Thailand are Mobile TX MHz 479.000 - 483.480, Base TX MHz 489.000 - 493.480. Most likely the network is not live (anymore). For sure not advertised.

Chris

There are some data roaming packages out there that won't break the bank if you keep it to text only e-mail downloads that you pull (as oppose to push) two to three times a day, but the focus is not on roaming; it is on prepaid. Roamers don't need the same bandwith range that we do. We're constantly looking for the deal and the company with a lot of bandwith on 900UMTs, 1700UMTs, or possibly 450UMTs, might be the one doing the all you can eat deals whereas the 2100mhz might be making out like a fat cow since it has all the roaming business. Obviously, there is a break even point. If you buy a $2,000 device on this theory, you'd better be an extremely heavy user.

Speaking of roaming costs and data, I ran into this article:

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/news/EkpuVFuEkVNMyqAlsd.html

Stu

*sigh* which one/method? cost?
 

Oh lordy *sigh* this is all very confusing for me and would really appreciate someone direct me to the proper card for me. I am leaving tomorrow for Taiwan and then to Japan. Taiwan is looked after for SIM card but Japan I am preplexed with all these diff cards etc.

What is my best/cheapest method of getting service while in Japan for 8 days. I won't use the phone a whole lot as I am on vacation, not business. It's in case I get lost for the most part and to have contact with my Japanese friends.

Thanks in advance!

P.S I do own a 3G capable handset.

Sorry to answer a bit too late. BTW the best solution was to buy a Travelsim in advance, but you didn't have enough time. The other solution is to hire a phone there in Japan. Now there should be also the possibility to get a prepaid card by Softbank, but still it seems to be very complicated for foreigners...

There are a number of kiosks at Narita (Tokyo) and Kansai (Osaka) that offer different phone rental options. For truly limited usage you might consider finding the SoftBank kiosk and renting a SIM. It seems to be only 105 JPY per day and incoming calls are free.