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meir 21-12-2007 18:25

Cheap CDMA phone
 
Looking for cheap and reliable CDMA phone working on CDMA 2000 1x, 800 МHz. Here in Europe is quite hard to get any of these. So seller should be able to ship phone for reasonable price.

PhotoJim 21-12-2007 19:41

Why do you want one?

These phones are nearly always carrier-locked, so the carrier with which you intend to use it is useful to know.

meir 21-12-2007 22:42

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Originally Posted by PhotoJim (Post 19586)
Why do you want one?

These phones are nearly always carrier-locked, so the carrier with which you intend to use it is useful to know.

Thanks for letting me know. I don't have slightest idea how CDMA phones work as I thought that it uses SIM card as well. Looks like I will buy the hendset on the spot in Tiraspol, Pridnestrovie.

Stu 21-12-2007 23:43

Some CDMA sets use SIM cards, but not the Americas ones which is the world's largest CDMA zone. Chinese and Indian CDMA phones use an RSIM (I think is the name) and are CDMA 850 compatible.

For example, look at the Asian version of the Nokia 6265:

http://www.myprodoktspace.com/prodok...kia-6265-(CDMA)

Przemolog 22-12-2007 01:00

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Originally Posted by meir (Post 19587)
Thanks for letting me know. I don't have slightest idea how CDMA phones work as I thought that it uses SIM card as well. Looks like I will buy the hendset on the spot in Tiraspol, Pridnestrovie.

Won't you have GSM coverage from right-bank Moldova? In another thread you told you are gong to be in Tiraspol and Bendery. Both cities are very close to the Moldovan-Moldovan border. Or, you care about indoor coverage, too? Then it may be a problem, I suppose...

PhotoJim 22-12-2007 05:54

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 19588)
Some CDMA sets use SIM cards, but not the Americas ones which is the world's largest CDMA zone. Chinese and Indian CDMA phones use an RSIM (I think is the name) and are CDMA 850 compatible.

This is precisely why I prefer GSM. I can (and do) use whatever phone I like.

I should be shuddering at wanting to use my S-E K610i since it's not quad-band, but it works great here. I don't miss GSM 850 with it at all.

meir 22-12-2007 08:54

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Originally Posted by Przemolog (Post 19589)
Won't you have GSM coverage from right-bank Moldova? In another thread you told you are gong to be in Tiraspol and Bendery. Both cities are very close to the Moldovan-Moldovan border. Or, you care about indoor coverage, too? Then it may be a problem, I suppose...

Yep but the locals wouldn't call me on my international number. This is the main issue.

Przemolog 22-12-2007 09:11

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Originally Posted by meir (Post 19593)
Yep but the locals wouldn't call me on my international number. This is the main issue.

So, just buy a Moldovan SIM. Are calls from PMR to Moldova international ones (or even barred)???

meir 22-12-2007 15:32

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Originally Posted by Przemolog (Post 19594)
So, just buy a Moldovan SIM. Are calls from PMR to Moldova international ones (or even barred)???

Rates for Moldovan numbers differ. They are much higher and sometimes is hard to get connection, but its not as bad as other way around. There was time when you could call PMR numbers from Moldova at all.

meir 23-12-2007 08:18

I called friend of mine.And was told the brand new phone are available for USD25 +. So price is not an issue.

Przemolog 24-12-2007 09:53

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Originally Posted by meir (Post 19596)
Rates for Moldovan numbers differ. They are much higher and sometimes is hard to get connection, but its not as bad as other way around. There was time when you could call PMR numbers from Moldova at all.

Hehe, traveling to non-exisiting countries may always bring some surprises. But, PMR is a hard case - eg. Northern Cyprus at least has GSM :-P

meir 24-12-2007 12:47

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Originally Posted by Przemolog (Post 19620)
Hehe, traveling to non-exisiting countries may always bring some surprises. But, PMR is a hard case - eg. Northern Cyprus at least has GSM :-P

Northern Cyprus is easy. I was there several time. On other side, with PMR CDMA phone you have free incoming calls when roaming in Odesskaja oblast of Ukraine.

DRNewcomb 24-12-2007 12:48

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Originally Posted by Przemolog (Post 19620)
Hehe, traveling to non-exisiting countries may always bring some surprises. But, PMR is a hard case - eg. Northern Cyprus at least has GSM :-P

I kinda' like non-existing countries. I plan to move to Theory. You know that, "In Theory everything works." ;)

meir 24-12-2007 12:53

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Originally Posted by DRNewcomb (Post 19623)
I kinda' like non-existing countries. I plan to move to Theory. You know that, "In Theory everything works." ;)

Me too. There is very nice live in PMR(e.g. Northern Cyprus) once you know the right way around.

Stu 24-12-2007 15:48

What is a non-existent country? Just ask the Oscars. They got themselves in huge trouble. Hong Kong is not a country, but we don't get into a problem here. What about Palestine? Do they have roaming with any Arab League Countries?

Why any jurisdiction in the middle of Europe would go CDMA only boggles my mind I guess they want to be an Island.

meir 24-12-2007 16:33

Actually there are CDMA networks in Ukraine, Russia as well. And BTW PMR borders with Ukraine.

Effendi 24-12-2007 17:39

There's CDMA also in nearby Romania, as well as in Belarus. But all those networks are rather ridiculous. The CDMA offer in Ukraine is nearly non existant (except the 450MHz one they use like in CZ), I almost couldn't find a single shop selling these phones and I suppose coverage is minimum too. Same in Belarus.

I guess you can find some info here: http://sprintmobile.net/ and http://www.idknet.com/

powerlifter 24-12-2007 18:48

There is also CDMA in Kyrgyzstan. I found that by turning on my verizion cell phone, and it started roaming. I hate to think what a call would cost to the US.

meir 24-12-2007 19:37

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Originally Posted by Effendi (Post 19640)
There's CDMA also in nearby Romania, as well as in Belarus. But all those networks are rather ridiculous. The CDMA offer in Ukraine is nearly non existant (except the 450MHz one they use like in CZ), I almost couldn't find a single shop selling these phones and I suppose coverage is minimum too. Same in Belarus.

I guess you can find some info here: http://sprintmobile.net/ and http://www.idknet.com/

In CZ CDMA is used for data only now days. I knew about network in Belarus. Intertelekom coverage is not as bad as I thought. See map http://www.intertelecom.ua/ru/aboutcompany/cmap. Roots of the operator is in south of Ukraine, Odessa. This explains why is as widely available in other parts of country.

I would prefer GSM anyway.

Przemolog 25-12-2007 02:01

AFAIK CDMA 450 networks in Central and Eastern are "converted" former NMT 450 networks. This is AFAIK the case of Czech Rep., Romania and Belarus. In Poland NMT 450 will probably be "converted" to CDMA only in 2008. It has something around 2000 users countrywide (whereas the maximum was reached at the level about 270 000 in 1997). It's still live because Polish Telecom uses it for landline services in sparsely populated areas where there are problems with GSM Orange coverage.

However, we have here also a CDMA 800 operator (in the Warsaw area) named Sferia which is a landline one, at least in the aspect of numbering because from the point of view of the users is "partially mobile" ;-). Moreover it used to be a pager operator named Polpager which worked on "eastern" 65-74 MHz public radio broadcasting stations :-D.

See here for details: http://www.sferia.pl/index.php?action=page&cid=276.
There are rumours they want to create a "mixed" CDMA/GSM mobile network using dual system handsets and GSM national roaming :-).

As to "non-existing countries", it was irony, of course. One could even say that Taiwan slightly exists since it's recongnised officially by 24 small countries only :-). It makes almost no difference to zero countries that recognise PMR :-P

Effendi 25-12-2007 21:42

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Originally Posted by meir (Post 19642)
Intertelekom coverage is not as bad as I thought. See map http://www.intertelecom.ua/ru/aboutcompany/cmap. Roots of the operator is in south of Ukraine, Odessa. This explains why is as widely available in other parts of country.

Quite a good coverage indeed, it's strange that they don't cover the "Russian-side" of Ukraine at all, while they cover Crimea which is totally Russian-speaking. BTW I travelled quite a lot around Crimea and Odessa and I could hardly see a shop selling CDMA phones or CDMA advertising in streets...

P.S. I'm fond of non existing countries! :D I passed very close to PMR last year and to Abkhazia and Nagorno Karabakh this year, but never entered... what a pity!

Malkav 25-12-2007 22:03

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Originally Posted by Effendi (Post 19660)
P.S. I'm fond of non existing countries! :D I passed very close to PMR last year and to Abkhazia and Nagorno Karabakh this year, but never entered... what a pity!


Me to....i visit Atlantis, Kerblechistan, Afsponistan, Durka-Durkastan, France, Imperial Jerkistan, Getthesodoutofhereistan...

fairly regularly....I have many good freinds in these countrys...and bank accounts in almost all of them!

meir 25-12-2007 22:42

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Originally Posted by Effendi (Post 19660)
Quite a good coverage indeed, it's strange that they don't cover the "Russian-side" of Ukraine at all, while they cover Crimea which is totally Russian-speaking. BTW I travelled quite a lot around Crimea and Odessa and I could hardly see a shop selling CDMA phones or CDMA advertising in streets...

P.S. I'm fond of non existing countries! :D I passed very close to PMR last year and to Abkhazia and Nagorno Karabakh this year, but never entered... what a pity!

I believe the reason for this is that licenses were given for regions (not for the whole country) and in Eastern part of Ukraine is most of the businesses directly or indirectly in the hands of companies from Russia. So I assume they weren't able to get permission to extend their network overthere.

BTW: I am also big fan of so called "non existing countries". More freaks welcome to join the club.

Malkav 26-12-2007 03:09

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Originally Posted by meir (Post 19662)
BTW: I am also big fan of so called "non existing countries". More freaks welcome to join the club.

I started that club...for membership details write to: Non existant country club, 355 Highland Drive, Ceaderwood city, Durpa-durpastan, durpa 077833!

Enclose a blank (signed) cheque and let your worries (and bank balance) wash away.....


A C.M.O.T Dibbler enterprise!

addict 02-02-2008 14:30

I like LG and samsung when it comes to cheap CDMA mobiles

Stu 04-02-2008 03:57

There is actually more CDMA out there than it might seem. Take a look at www.cdg.org.


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