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tux 09-03-2011 21:27

They say that 1mb is enough for a Skype call with Skype Mobile. I think I should try it on my Android...

P.S.: The difference between Standard and Express is only the delivery time. I got the package within 3 days because Milan and Vienna are "close" ;)

dg7feq 10-03-2011 09:28

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Originally Posted by snidely (Post 36100)
Tux -

I wonder if Skype to Skype burns more or less than "Skype to phone"? Hmm. Unfortunately, I would guess less.

Thanks again.

...mike

Skype to skype calls use more bandwidth than skype to phone calls. Skype uses a broad-frequency-bandwidth codec for on net calls for better voice quality.

Chris

dg7feq 10-03-2011 09:43

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Originally Posted by snidely (Post 36100)
I wonder if Skype to Skype burns more or less than "Skype to phone"? Hmm. Unfortunately, I would guess less.

Just made a test:
1 minute on-net call to Echo service: 550 kbyte
1 minute call to phone: 490 kbyte

One thing to note:
When talking skype-to-skype you only transmit data when you actually speak, inbetween the data rate drops significantly. While speaking i saw 50-70kbps
When talking to phones the data rate is constantly 33kbps, no matter if speaking or not.
So you can calculcate skype2phone=66kbps + overhead -> about 450kbyte/minute


Chris

snidely 10-03-2011 22:39

Chris -
Sounds like you got the same results as Tux. Basically, 2 min. +/- per mb. Using this SIM for voice would pay in some cases. I don't know how/why they made the statement on their web site that a user would get 4 minutes/mb on Skype.

...mike

tux 13-03-2011 13:37

Just a note: on their Facebook page I read that they charge per 128kb increments.

snidely 16-03-2011 01:06

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Originally Posted by tux (Post 36170)
Just a note: on their Facebook page I read that they charge per 128kb increments.

What is the definition of a "session"? If you were going to make a series of calls, is that one session or several? Or, if you do a Google search and click on a series of links - is that one long session or a series that can each make you round up a bunch of short downloads?
I think I'll ask them.
I often am on a "session" where, for periods of time, no data is going up or down.

...mike

dg7feq 16-03-2011 08:31

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Originally Posted by snidely (Post 36182)
What is the definition of a "session"? If you were going to make a series of calls, is that one session or several? Or, if you do a Google search and click on a series of links - is that one long session or a series that can each make you round up a bunch of short downloads?
I think I'll ask them.
I often am on a "session" where, for periods of time, no data is going up or down.

...mike

usually a session is defined from the time where your phone connects to the GPRS service (when the G, E or 3G or H symbol appears on your screen) to the time where you disconnect the GPRS service again. Most providers still have some smallprint like "at least one session rounding per day / per hour" etc.

Chris

snidely 17-03-2011 17:58

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Originally Posted by dg7feq (Post 36184)
usually a session is defined from the time where your phone connects to the GPRS service (when the G, E or 3G or H symbol appears on your screen) to the time where you disconnect the GPRS service again. Most providers still have some smallprint like "at least one session rounding per day / per hour" etc.

Chris

That makes sense. Also, they should count it as a single "session" if you lose signal and reconnect within 2 or 3 minutes.

...mike

andy 17-03-2011 23:59

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Originally Posted by snidely (Post 36196)
That makes sense. Also, they should count it as a single "session" if you lose signal and reconnect within 2 or 3 minutes.

...mike

It would be nice to see, but I wonder ...

That's where unit sizes in the billing will come into the picture, and might affect people's decisions on thing like leaving an email client constantly checking or just doing manual updates a few times a day

dg7feq 18-03-2011 10:34

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Originally Posted by snidely (Post 36196)
That makes sense. Also, they should count it as a single "session" if you lose signal and reconnect within 2 or 3 minutes.

...mike


yes, depends on the settings on the providers APN. For example T-Mobile germany holds the session open for up to 60 minutes in case the subscriber is getting out of service area and re-entering. Other providers can set different times of course.

Chris


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