apologies, I should have realised you meant for international calls - and rather oddly O2 seems to have much cheaper international landline calls from payg (from 5p/min) than from contracts

yes i know and am rather impressed ... would definitely recommend the 02
online sim to anyone visting :)

for ?15 top up you get 300 UK texts, 150evening anyone minutes, +the ?15 to spend on calling home !

and it's even more than that at the moment - Joining Treats offer free bolt-on for 3 months

and from the credit, make cheaper calls to UK landlines (or USA) by calling Ireland and use a calling card, thus paying 6.3p/min instead of some at 25p, thus saving the x-net minutes for mobiles

FOR 02 call 2211 for treats...
anyways




JUST SOME NEW INFOs here


<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>http://www.globalsimcard.co.uk/</span>


the site is up, the rates are also up ! i dont know if its quite like the 0044 offer but have a look nonetheless. They quote sms as being 6p


The only thing that worries me is the introduction of a SERVICE fee every year for using the geodesa sim, although it is PAYG only ?


send them an email to ask for a full pricelist

The landline rates are the same as on the CallKey site, but the mobile rates do appear to be higher.

It appears that the card needs to be topped up once a year, but it is true the choice of words could be clearer.

It looks rather like CallKey intend to provide the SIM and let its agents do much of the support, and possibly the final tariffs, which is something to wonder about for the future. Although the 0044 site shows some higher tariffs - France and Spain - at the moment the charges are according to the CallKey site.

http://www.globalsimcard.co.uk/coverage.htm

It seems that it may be the first international SIM with free incoming calls in Ukraine ("under test" status now) :) but incoming in Russia are for 0.20 GBP :(.

TBA stands for "to be announced", I guess?

And it has roaming on more networks in Europe in general - Riiing has 2 German and 3 Dutch networks - CallKey has 4 and 5.

It will be interesting to see how the different agents, GTsim, 0044 Geodesa and others, develop this SIM in different ways. We could stand them increasing outgoing call charges, by using independent callback, but changing the free incoming, as GTsim already have, could change the picture rather more.



<span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>[I'm posting this using gprs connection for the first time, on O2 at the moment, practising for setting up Wind]</span>

But UM/Riiing is missing less countries in Europe: Estonia + some small island territories: Faeroe, Jersey and Man.

OTOH, Callkey-based SIMs cover Estonia and the above islands, but they are missing many countries in non-EU Eastern Europe: Ukraine (to be "fixed" soon :)), Belarus, Moldova, Bosnia, Macedonia, Kosovo, Montenegro and Albania.

So how Callkey "Manx" sims do we have at the moment:
GTsim, 0044, Geodesa, and (possibly on the way) GlobalSIM.net Holiday and Business... Will there be next one? :) .

What do you mean by "changing the free incoming, as GTsim already have"? What has changed about incoming calls in GT? I've just checked their site and still seen 38 cents/min + one selected country free...

He probably was comparing it to the UM offer -- it has free incoming in MULTIPLE countries as opposed to only ONE HOME country where inbound is free.

If one travels much in various countries and is primarily CALLED or uses a callback service, then the free inbound to ONE phone number in many countries is both less expensive and more convenient.

Slightly OT.... The dealer kanne_mv42 on ebay.de has not sold a single GT-SIM. I believe the items have been RELISTED from an earlier attempt so this is the second time around for them. The GT-SIM does not seem to be what you would call a hot topic.

Stan