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Drlawgr 17-10-2009 20:41

Forgot to ask Prion... you say CLI network... which one is that?

hrgajek 05-11-2009 16:05

Beginning of the end?
 
Hello UM423 fellows and fans,

My UM423 still registers to Germany T-Mobile, Vodafone and E-Plus, but not to o2.

Until the last days voice calls from outside to UM423 were possible.
Textmessages incoming were switched off, 2-3 month ago.

But if call my number yesterday or today I 'll be forwarded to the voice mail.

A problem with my account or the last chapter of the sUM423-tory?

What's with your SIM-cards?

andy 05-11-2009 17:28

still registers on Vodafone UK, always has

I suspect other providers will be as I said on 17/10, and I won't try, but BT landline, which did ring the phone then, now reaches a voicemail message

prion 05-11-2009 21:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drlawgr (Post 29888)
Forgot to ask Prion... you say CLI network... which one is that?

CLI= Calling Line Identification


My UM sim registers fine and I can call it!

I have only tried calling it via vodafone and it did ring

hrgajek 06-11-2009 13:57

Hello Prion,

you're right, the UM 423 SIM-Cards can be reached again (since yesterday 5th Nov, evening)
Incoming calls are possible (i did a test-voice-call for round about 1 minute :-)

I cannot say, what's happening there at the moment in detail.

If you like to bet, see to your bet-shop and place a bet on United-Mobile :-)

BTT: I'll try to find out some more stressable news, if possible. Stay tuned.

Drlawgr 09-11-2009 05:08

Hello everyone,
I guess everyone is still waiting and hopes for his number, uh? Same here...

Well, I just tried to call my UM number... here are the updated results (tests took place a couple of minutes ago):

Calling from land line, rings perfectly... I even picked it up, and was able to talk. Making a notice here, that the voice was not delayed at all and it was crystal clear! (previously voice was kind of bad and with a lot of delay - up to 1-2 seconds... seems someone is working on it??? :D)

Call from my Vodafone mobile number, rings perfectly, and can speak - very clear too.

Send sms from my Vodafone mobile number, nothing is received.

From UM number though, I can place no calls, or send any sms...

Caller ID also works from my Vodafone mobile and land line.

hrgajek 09-11-2009 17:30

This afternoon (09 November) "Die gewählte Rufnummer ist vorübergehend nicht erreichbar... Please try again later."

The bet offices could have sleepless nights :-)

prion 09-11-2009 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrgajek (Post 30123)
This afternoon (09 November) "Die gewählte Rufnummer ist vorübergehend nicht erreichbar... Please try again later."

The bet offices could have sleepless nights :-)

Same message here.

herkdrvr 10-11-2009 20:40

Um +44???
 
Any news on these sim cards? Great that the +423's are working and hope the +44 numbers will also start to work.

hrgajek 10-11-2009 21:15

Good Evening,

the UM 423 SIM-Cards cannot be called at the moment. I don't know if this is a temporarily issue (constructing a new network/platform) or if they've decided to switch off all the issued SIM-cards and numbers.

The UM 44 cards are gone, for ever I think. Dialing the +44 7937 gives you an announcement, that this numbers are invalid.

There are some rumours about problems with some +44 7624 and/or +44 7924 SIMcards. Ex-German-Provider "globalsim" has left Germany and can only be reached by email at this time. Gobalsim started its business with "Riiing" SIM-Cards issued by ... United-Mobile.

prion 11-11-2009 21:13

I have discovered that there appears to be a problem in calling the whole range of +423663 not only the UM numbers. The problem appears to be affecting other numbers also which are allocated to other services besides UM. I do not know if this problem will remain for the other services also.
This whole calling range is given to Mobilkom I think

I will keep you updated about this

prion 12-11-2009 08:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrgajek (Post 30134)
Good Evening,

the UM 423 SIM-Cards cannot be called at the moment. I don't know if this is a temporarily issue (constructing a new network/platform) or if they've decided to switch off all the issued SIM-cards and numbers.

The UM 44 cards are gone, for ever I think. Dialing the +44 7937 gives you an announcement, that this numbers are invalid.

There are some rumours about problems with some +44 7624 and/or +44 7924 SIMcards. Ex-German-Provider "globalsim" has left Germany and can only be reached by email at this time. Gobalsim started its business with "Riiing" SIM-Cards issued by ... United-Mobile.

I have called my Um phone today and it went through to voicemail (the sim was not on a cell). So it appears the problem is fixed. can you check also?

hrgajek 12-11-2009 14:47

Hi Prion,

I tested two different numbers: 1st one went to voicemail, as the battery of my mobile was empty :-)
Second went through.

But the chance to reach UM423 mobile phones went worse, german mobile carrier E-Plus connects now with a male voice telling me erotic stories, T-Mobile connects sometimes wrong (erotic stories), o2-de connects correctly.

to be continued.

bourbonkiller 15-11-2009 11:25

Observations from Austria
 
Did play around with my ICQSIM yesterday and the status is the same:

  • SIM did register immediately on A1 3G network
  • calls from Orange AT went through very quick, phone did ring
  • SMS can't be sent off the ICQSIM
  • no incoming SMS (neither from a phone, nor the settings from ICQ SIM website)
This seems to be status quo, let's hope for better days...
BK

hrgajek 15-11-2009 12:01

Hi BK,

still the same here.

Drlawgr 16-11-2009 17:06

Hello everyone,
just called my number from my local Vodafone mobile, and my landline... all calls went through...

blindbeggar 19-11-2009 18:21

Hello all...

I have been watching this thread since May when i first encountered problems with my +423 number(riiing sim). Apart from a few weeks since then i still have been receiving in-coming calls from a number of people albeit some people cant connect with me, i suppose thats down to their carrier?

Still cant call out or txt, but as i travel around Europe it does pick up networks.

My roaming charges have once again hit the roof, gonna change over from my orange to 02 as i believe you can get an European bolt on with 1000minutes free incoming calls!!

Anyway that was my first post...hope your all having a good November!!

andy 20-11-2009 03:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindbeggar (Post 30207)
... gonna change over from my orange to 02 as i believe you can get an European bolt on with 1000minutes free incoming calls!!

Yes, it's called My Europe Extra, available for £10 a month on contract and Pay & Go, or £5 on business contracts if for the whole year

hrgajek 07-12-2009 23:50

Good evening,

bad news: German mobile network o2-Telefonica blocks complete +423-663 range for security-reasons.
Other carriers signal me "Anruf nicht erlaubt / Call not allowed" and the network voice tells me, that the dialled number is not available.
I tested this with T-Mobile D1, E-Plus (Simyo) and Swisscom (Natel Easy) so I'm thinking there must be a "problem" at the Mobilkom-LI-663-Network or they are still discussing what they wan't to do or not...

I think we can abbreviate this and wait until somebody gives official substantial information.

prion 08-12-2009 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrgajek (Post 30368)
Good evening,

bad news: German mobile network o2-Telefonica blocks complete +423-663 range for security-reasons.
Other carriers signal me "Anruf nicht erlaubt / Call not allowed" and the network voice tells me, that the dialled number is not available.
I tested this with T-Mobile D1, E-Plus (Simyo) and Swisscom (Natel Easy) so I'm thinking there must be a "problem" at the Mobilkom-LI-663-Network or they are still discussing what they wan't to do or not...

I think we can abbreviate this and wait until somebody gives official substantial information.

Same here. My number is not accessible. Other numbers in the same range (+423663) are accessible though. I have recently noticed that it is becoming more and more difficult to find relatively cheap voip carriers to route calls to this range. Carriers that completed calls some time ago do not connect any more.

andreibor 09-12-2009 11:28

My last incoming call.
 
to my Riing card was received on Nov. 26 in Czech Republic . The call was from Israel. I checked either that a call from Israel to UM roaming in Israel worked. Now I cannot call +423 663 from my land line.
May be Dec. 1 was a "magic" date when the bankrupcy took place officially and Liechteinstein mobile operator blocked all these numbers ?

bbob 09-12-2009 11:37

Funny how this thread seems to continue as not only is um dead. The number might still work but calling the numbers has always been very difficult the last years. Seems to get more difficult now also and prices to call the number and a lot higher than calling a +44 mobile number.

also reamins that there are expensive paid numbers in the same range which will not change. I think I have mentioned this several times so you could forget about the +423 number

Drlawgr 13-12-2009 18:14

I just called my +423 number, and all I get is a "busy" sugnal...

Does that mean, it's about time to keep the SIM card in a drawer...? If not to throw it away...?

hrgajek 07-01-2010 12:24

Happy new Year all (ex) United-Mobile Customers,

Area code +423-663 seems to be blocked by many carriers now, e.g. for "security reasons" or an announcement tells you, that the subscriber is not available, but some phones show simultaneously "call not allowed" or similar messages on their displays.

UM SIM card is still registering with (minium) one local network, but this gives you nothing, as Short Messages (Texts) do not work incoming or outcoming and calls wouldn't go in or go out.

Official information is not available at this thime, but rumours tell me, that former proprietors/managers/players still playing sandbox games between each others.

Meanwhile the customers are gone, the business modell is gone, we've discussed this many times here and elsewhere.

Take the UM-SIM-Card and tape it to a picture frame on your living room wall and remember the better days of roaming sim-cards. As long as the SIM card registers to a network, there is a 1% chance they will come back one day, one year, or never.

UM had too many ideas and projects and forgot to care the existing customers and attract and serve new ones. Too many people wanted to increase money, without offering attractive goods or services behind it. We remember its called world economical crisis, am I right?

rfranzq 11-01-2010 05:50

Replacements still available??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hrgajek (Post 30686)
As long as the SIM card registers to a network, there is a 1% chance they will come back one day, one year, or never.

No doubt your right on this prediction. For those with UM SIM cards still the links on the following message seem to still work. Some are better for UK people and other for USA folk. Others?? You will have to read the fine print and see how you do. ALSO, you might want to check to see if the offers are still available.
http://www.prepaidgsm.net/forum/inte...html#post26833

I am in the USA and did the OneSIMcard one and am happy with it. Used it on a Rhine cruise in December from Basel to Amsterdam.

hrgajek 07-02-2010 13:49

Hello again,

very bad news. Most of the me known UM423 SIM Cards announce "SIM registration failed" if you try to log on to any network. Some SIM Cards still register, but you cannot receive or make any calls, as the access to +423 663 is blocked.

RIP UM.
I will fix it on the wall due to nostalgic reasons.

MATHA531 07-02-2010 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrgajek (Post 30987)
Hello again,

very bad news. Most of the me known UM423 SIM Cards announce "SIM registration failed" if you try to log on to any network. Some SIM Cards still register, but you cannot receive or make any calls, as the access to +423 663 is blocked.

RIP UM.
I will fix it on the wall due to nostalgic reasons.


Is this really a surprise? The cropse has totally rotted through and through by now.

hrgajek 07-02-2010 15:58

Matha

Of course: No surprise at all.

But I'm a little bit nostalgic. Having a Liechtenstein number was very exotic in these days :-)

bourbonkiller 17-03-2010 15:39

united mobile is dead, but...
 
Dear prepaidgsm friends,

it's a while since someone did a posting on this thread. I am working for a small hotel chain in Switzerland and we did suggest our clients (busoperators etc.) to buy a united mobile SIM for their tour guide's when staying at lake constance because you have three countries just around the corner.

With this in mind I did contact mobilkom.li today to ask if there is any news on the sim cards that I can communicate to our clients when returning to Switzerland during summer.

I have been put through to a very kind gentleman that told me, that the united mobile SIM cards are definately gone, since no one is allowed to use them any more, also the balance is gone for everyone. The more interresting part has been, that he told me, mobilkom is readying the platform for a new product that will be launched in may this year.

He did also ask me to send him my contact details as they would be very happy to have people testing the new product befor launch. He told me that the product will be ready for the market and widley spread before the summer travel season.

This is good news and I hope that I can keep you updated once I have more details about this.

BK

bbob 23-03-2010 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by bourbonkiller (Post 31522)
Dear prepaidgsm friends,

it's a while since someone did a posting on this thread. I am working for a small hotel chain in Switzerland and we did suggest our clients (busoperators etc.) to buy a united mobile SIM for their tour guide's when staying at lake constance because you have three countries just around the corner.

With this in mind I did contact mobilkom.li today to ask if there is any news on the sim cards that I can communicate to our clients when returning to Switzerland during summer.

I have been put through to a very kind gentleman that told me, that the united mobile SIM cards are definately gone, since no one is allowed to use them any more, also the balance is gone for everyone. The more interresting part has been, that he told me, mobilkom is readying the platform for a new product that will be launched in may this year.

He did also ask me to send him my contact details as they would be very happy to have people testing the new product befor launch. He told me that the product will be ready for the market and widley spread before the summer travel season.

This is good news and I hope that I can keep you updated once I have more details about this.

BK

Sounds interesting but that said it all depends on the number range they are using for the new product.

Problem with the UM number range was that callings those number was getting so expensive and some providers even blocked calling these numbers. if that situation doesn't change I doubt that a new launch will be very succesfull.

Same problem with estonian phonenumber they are also difficult to call or expensive through voip. The Uk number still seems to be the cheapest soultion when calling these numbers and for business use when you want to give your mobile number an Uk number still looks better than a estonian or lichtenstein number


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