I see.
By the way, where on the website is it said explicitly that incoming calls are free in the country of registration? And I think it shouldn't apply to USA, Canada and India since those countries have extra surcharges for all calls in the GT pricelist...

It doesn't. Which is why I phoned them. And why I'll only believe it when I've tried it.

Like Buytel, a lot of things seem to be a bit hazy and not well thought out (they haven't really launched yet), but as they at least have some experience of flat-rate calls with their callback company I'll try it out.

The SMS prices make it a good travel sim. [edit] but looking closer (I thought) they seem to charge for receiving SMS at all times even in the home country, which for many could be a killer. (but I was wrong, it's another translation error in the English price list). [/edit]

For me it's also cheaper than my own domestic SIM (Manx Telecom Pronto Go) for everything except off-peak local calls, and shouldn't cost any more for local people to call (in theory, need to test this).

For others in Europe near borders Riiing is maybe a better deal (Riiing doesn't work here).

Where did you find this about charge for incoming sms? It's not in the complete price list at http://212.227.87.187/websites/gt_sim/pric...SIM-ger-b2c.pdf

I was looking at the English price list at
http://212.227.87.187/websites/gt_sim/pric...SIM-eng-b2c.pdf

It says:
"text messages within the country"
"text messages send abroad"
"text messages while abroad"
(all 9c)

If the second price is sending, what is the last price?

Looks like it is a translation error, since the German list uses "versand" (dispatch) for all.

So, I agree, reading the German version of the list, there is no incoming charge, sorry for the false alarm. Their translations are careless (like "privacy policy" for the terms and conditions).

OK, so if the country of the subscriber is the USA does that mean that incoming calls are "free" in the US? That would be interesting.

USA and Canada roaming are 60 cents extra (fine print -- India 1 Euro more). Not clear if that is send, receive or both or if it even applies to free incoming. The one page is somewhat vague as has been noted.

Ok, I'm yet waiting for the sim and when it will be in my hands I'll try to know everything for you :P

Also I suppose that Manx Telecom is the "real" network behind GT (as FL1 for Riiing or Spacetel Ghana for Hop) and that we pay for incoming calls everywhere :construction:

My GT-Sim arrived today - ordered 24 Oct, posted from Thailand (!) on 3 Nov. Reasonably secure system, as the sim has a pin which is only visible on the web site (so if the sim is stolen in the post it's unusable).

Seems to function OK, although I'm probably not in an ideal position to test as I'm on the home network (Manx Telecom, Isle of Man).

The online billing records both incoming and outgoing calls and is totally real-time for voice calls, updates in seconds. Incoming calls not charged for me on this network (supposed to be not charged anywhere in +44, but I can't test that although the online billing does say "roaming in United Kingdom" for my calls so far).

Incoming and outgoing SMS works fine to other MT phones, I'll check other networks later. SMS isn't shown on the online billing yet.

Actually the billing does look a bit odd - online bill shows my 26c test call and incominng calls, dialling 187 to check balance shows 6c for my test SMS. The real total is both.

For outgoing calls I've just tested by dialling a number direct, not using a phone book, on a very basic Siemens A60. Callback works fine and very prompt. I'll test quality later.

There is also voicemail, I'll test that and more soon. Next week I'll be trying it in Ireland and the USA.

The billing is a bit confusing at present. Every outgoing call to a fixed line gets an SMS after (and is shown on the 187 balance) as costing US$0.06, calls to mobiles shown as US0.24. On the online billing summary they are shown (correctly) as Euro 26c and 38c.

Outgoing SMS doesn't appear on either yet (the 6c shown was related to the call not the SMS).

Calls to US mobiles are billed as landline (26c), as you'd expect (no way to tell it's a mobile).

Does this all mean that the billing is currency-mixed, both euros and US dollars?