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ChrisNeedsToKnow 06-09-2013 08:42

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Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 43975)
...the clandestine price increase...

Good morning,

did you already effect a call? Does it show in the itemised billing? Are they serious, or is this (I hope so!) an error?

Rgds, Christian

inquisitor 06-09-2013 08:51

No, I haven't placed any outgoing call to verify the price increase yet. But I assume it is not an error as it would be in line with Lyca's spivvy custom to change tariffs randomly without any advance notice and furthermore not to communicate tariff changes adequately. At least Toggle's website still shows the old tariffs.

VladS 06-09-2013 12:57

I got the same text in the Netherlands, however all calls placed between 9/2-3 were still rated at 3p/minute.

ChrisNeedsToKnow 07-09-2013 08:50

Also made some calls, all charged at old rates.

Yet another incident which makes me wonder about the reliability of this provider. Unfortunately, like this, I will never turn thin into my "main" card, although I would like to do this if the offer was stable and reliable. :confused:

bourbonkiller 08-09-2013 13:37

Regarding the SMS with new tariffs, I haven't got one of these, but my mobile was switched off the last days. You should consider, that a mobile phone call within switzerland with all providers cost between 0.25 and and 0.70 CHF, a call abroad from a swiss mobile phone cost between 0.40 and 0.70 CHF. Considering this, 0.15p is still a decent price.

Beside that, 0.15p seems to be the regulated EU pricing for mobile phones within the EU. As long as they can keep the free incoming calls, the card is still a bargain, specially for Switzerland, as most european providers doesn't charge Switzerland as a EU countryè

BK

inquisitor 08-09-2013 14:14

Well, compared to Swiss tariffs toggle was indeed extraordinarily cheap but Switzerland can't be a benchmark for most EU countries, where mobile terminations rates are in the lower single-digit cent range and where a final subscriber price of € 0.18/min is definitely expensive, at least for domestic calls (e.g. that's 100% above the usual € 0.09/min most German prepaid providers charge).
Though I always had reservations towards Lyca and toggle due to their questionable business practices I actually hoped toggle could one day become my primary SIM where I would also import my German number to. But given the absence of data packs for toggle countries, the recent clandestine drastic price increase and their continuing trouble with Vodafone, which some day could perhaps affect roaming service outside toggle countries, I will not commit myself to them.

It's a pity how toggle is failing to market this promising innovative platform properly. There's a huge market for cross-border SIM cards with competitive tariffs and the capability to assign extraterrestrial numbers but with such a track record of bazar-like pricing policy, unkept promises and unreliability they will never attract high-volume users, especially not those from the business sphere.

As of EU-regulated tariffs I am not aware of any other fixed prices than those € 0.24/min (excl. VAT) for outgoing calls to EU countries and € 0.08/min (excl. VAT) for incoming calls - both applying only while roaming within the EU.

MBK 08-09-2013 19:02

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Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 43992)
I actually hoped toggle could one day become my primary SIM

It's been my primary SIM for Europe for a few months now.

I think I'll even cancel the number I've had for the past 10+ years with another provider.

Now with the US numbers people can call us for free (many providers don't charge for calls to US) and we can receive the call on our mobile for free in more than 20 countries (+ 16 countries worldwide for free with a single 19p charge per call).

This is one of the top SIMs. The best SIM in Europe including local SIMs as far as I'm concerned (still missing the data bundles, but it's coming soon- Until then, put a local SIM for data in your dual-SIM phone).

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Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 43992)
But given the absence of data packs for toggle countries,

Twitter post from August 23rd:

"Hi, we are working on it to be launched as soon as possible. We will keep you posted."

They were saying the same for the US numbers, and they are now available. So as far as I can see it is looking good.

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Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 43992)
the recent clandestine drastic price increase

What price increase? There has been no price increase on my SIM and I am currently using my SIM daily in the Toggle countries. Even yesterday in France and today in Switzerland. I am always charged at 3p/min for local calls and 9p/min mobile.

Furthermore, the website is still showing these rates and there have been no posts regarding any price increases on their facebook/twitter pages.

I got the 15p/m SMS. As far as I can see it was an error. Perhaps someone should contact support to clear this up with them.

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Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 43992)
and their continuing trouble with Vodafone, which some day could perhaps affect roaming service outside toggle countries, I will not commit myself to them.

Who said there was any trouble? And continuing?????

They changed the network to KPN in Denmark?. So what? If changing networks is what it takes for them to keep these low rates, then they could switch every week for all I care.

Quote:

Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 43992)
It's a pity how toggle is failing to market this promising innovative platform properly. There's a huge market for cross-border SIM cards with competitive tariffs and the capability to assign extraterrestrial numbers but with such a track record of bazar-like pricing policy, unkept promises and unreliability they will never attract high-volume users, especially not those from the business sphere.

Yes this bazar is lycamobile. But so far Toggle has kept all their promises as far as I'm concerned:

  1. End of 2012 they added more Toggle countries as promised.
  2. US numbers were coming: they are here.
  3. Data bundles: they are working on it to bring them asap.
  4. Call forwarding: they clearly say they don't support it.
So, given 1, 2 and 4 I think we can trust what they say. When they say they do it they do it. When they don't do it they clearly say that they don't.

NFH 08-09-2013 19:08

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Originally Posted by bourbonkiller (Post 43991)
most european providers doesn't charge Switzerland as a EU country

Most British networks do apply EEA price caps to Switzerland and also to the Channel Islands which are likewise outside the EEA.

rfranzq 08-09-2013 21:30

Area Code choice?
 
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Originally Posted by inquisitor (Post 43975)
Nice! I've just successfully registered an American number which has an area code (201) from Hudson and Bergen counties, NJ. It was assigned within less than a minute and was also immediately available for voice calls and SMS.

Did you have any choice of what your area code which was assigned?

HappyCamp 08-09-2013 21:31

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Originally Posted by rfranzq (Post 43996)
Did you have any choice of what your area code which was assigned?

Not when I did it. You just request a US number with no indication where it will come from.


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