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direct calling (no callback anymore) to be launched next month as advised from their customer service!
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Some days ago I bought a new sim and I have it at home. It's a very interesting prepaid card. The big problem is the bill to Latvia...
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new (reduced) rates to be released soon, effective as of 1st of July 2012.
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they also told me that some non-European countries rates will also be reduced. per second billing will also continue to be active from European Union countries, plus the voice data bundles. about what you ask, have a look at rebtel.com , 0.18cents per minute. |
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I would really like a Camel Mobile SIM but am not comfortable submitting a copy of my passport and Credit Card on a non-secure website. I e-mailed camel mobile and received no answer. I just can't imagine that it has not bothered anyone else that not any of their website is secure (https).
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email your order at tk@camelmobile.com, i ordered that way. their response should be very fast on this email
concerniong their website they had told me some weeks ago that they would introduce a new, completely new website soon, within summer time. |
Did you have to send them a copy of your passport and credit card. I don't think I trust them enough to send them these important documents. If they can't even make a website that is secure, I can't even imagine how unsecure all their other computers and databases are.
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Camelmobile is a fully licensed mobile operator in Latvia, registration licence no: 40103181903. http://www.camelmobile.com/en/about/about/ Camelmobile is a subsiadary of BITE-LATVIA network. http://www.bite.lv/en BITE-LATVIA network is owned by the mother-company BITE Group ... http://www.bitegroup.net/en/about/group mother-company BITE Group also operates in Lithuania with its owned network BITE-LITHUANIA http://www.bite.lt/lt/privatiems/planai Camel mobile is the international part (only for roaming) of BITE-LATVIA...doesn't operate localy in Latvia, even though it uses the mobile tel. numbers prefixes of BITE-LATVIA +371222 & +37121. Bite Group is included on Vodafone's worldwide partner networks since 2003... http://www.bitegroup.net/en/about/bitevodafone that is why camelmobile simcards are preset to prefer vodafone networks abroad, even though you can manually select another network. camelmobile was founded is 2005..and operates also via several worldwide resellers (mainly european) such as: alfamobile, teletie, novikontas, altitel, novasim, teqli-telecom e.t.c. just contact them via email ( tk@camelmobile.com ) to place your order, as i did, you don't have to send anything that way. you can either send the payment via paypal or bank transfer. if you wish a specific number seen as availiable on their website, ask the to reserve it for you when you email them. after payment ask them to give you a unique username & passowrd to access the online management tool of your account. http://manager.camelmobile.com/ you'll also be able to topup/recharge your account with either paypal or credit/debit card with a selection 2currencies, either usd or euro. very important: -minimum recharge amount 1euro or 1usd. -unlimited validity of the simcard and the credit on it, never expire. -calls within Europe are charged per second, all other travel simcards charge per minute. as advised for their cc, new reduced rates, will be announced next week. & direct calling (no callback anymore) to be launched next month. |
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I have ordered one today how long it will take to get it on average? |
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*new reduced rates (voice/data/sms) within european union are effective since this month |
Camel Mobile is not a cheap in EU, see better tariff...The cheapest country in the EU only Austria and Great Britain, 0.25c, and Other EU countries of 0.30c!
("xxsim" for all EU countries is one tarif, 0.19c, no extra cost) Rates - CamelMobile Countries with high rates - CamelMobile |
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Camel introduced new rates within EU since 1st July 2012 |
They did not even change the look of Tarf, for me, are not reliable! Now it was 31.07
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their website will be completely renewed in a few days, so i suppose that is the reason their old website is not updated with the new reduced voice/sms/data rates. all these years i have tried all availible roaming simcards, I was never such satisfied as with camelmobile, including the variety of services offered, the quality and the pricing of their service. *they have also launched (since mid-July) the new direct calling function to most european countries! no callback anymore! |
I find it interesting that they are quoting roaming rates in North Korea. To the best off my knowledge, there are no roaming agreements in place for North Korea. I don't even think China Mobile (or Unicom) has a roaming agreement.
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North Korea has official mobile phone service through a 3G network set up by Orascom of Egypt called Koryolink. Other than high handset prices the average worker can not afford, international direct dial is blocked and some handset functions are deliberately disabled. Unofficially near the North Korea/China border, some people use smuggled Chinese phones to call internationally on Chinese networks that can be accessed: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...rticle4103903/ Orascom did sign an agreement with roaming provider Link2One http://www.mach.com/en/News-Events/P...ne-Roaming-Hub but I highly doubt this would ever lead to any official roaming on Koryolink. |
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North Korea has official mobile phone service through a 3G network set up by Orascom of Egypt called Koryolink. Other than high handset prices the average worker can not afford, international direct dial is blocked and some handset functions are deliberately disabled. Unofficially near the North Korea/China border, some people use smuggled Chinese phones to call internationally on Chinese networks that can be accessed: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...rticle4103903/ Orascom did sign an agreement with roaming provider Link2One http://www.mach.com/en/News-Events/P...ne-Roaming-Hub but I highly doubt this would ever lead to any official roaming on Koryolink. |
The roaming agreement is probably a one way agreement so that North Korean government officials can use their mobiles while conducting official business in Macao, Monnaco, Tahiti, etc.
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camelmobile has NO active roaming agreement in North Korea.. camel:manual:roaming_partners [SertexSoft]
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Excuse me, these numbers do not belong "Latvia BITE MOBILE", numbers are "Latvia MOBILE", see tariff calculation from the Germany... numbered 8673 and 8674 and map of prefixes Latvia are the numbers divided by the company! Bite Mobile, Lettland Mobile, Tele 2...etc, Call cost from the Germany (dearly) 69.9c -> CallRelax (germ.) <- why can not camelmobile ads? |
each calling or voip provider has different rates my friend..you should be aware of this!
have a look for example at rebtel... Cheap International calling rates from Rebtel 0.18 per minute for calling 371222 numbers.. and just for your info... the termination rate for camelmobile numbers (371222 & 37121) is 0.16eur. per minute. |
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Wind landline telephony in Greece is also charging 2,23 euros/min for all +3712 numbers! Also globe7 is charging 1,1 USD/min for these numbers! Betamax/finarea/dellmont clones do not appear to connect. All these tell us that the termination rates are far more expensive. There are af cource still some cheap routes. The question is how long they will last... I do remember that When I bought my UM sim which had a +423663 number there were a few carriers that charged even 10c/min only! But most were not connecting or charging more. I think the same think will happen here. |
my friend.. some few examples for your reference:
rebtel charges 0.18 per minute localphone 0.21 per minute betamax premium route 0.162 per minute... so, no worry! camelmobile number ranging routing+access is handled by their own...for axapmle they have special agreement with TELEFONICA...for intra-europe routing at advertised termination rate. so there will ALWAYS be low cost access to their service.. despite other travelsim cards... *in our company we also use some spare camelmobile numbers for calling our drivers... intra-rates: 0.18/min. with per second billing... direct calling, no callback anymore, is also introduced in Greece by camelmobile since last month. |
I have tried voipbuster and webcalldirect and none connected to +371222 numbers. How can I use the premium route? Is this option offered for wholesale only?
Any explanation as to why big carriers like OTE or wind are charging that much for these numbers whereas they charge a lot less for normal mobile numbers in Latvia? When I have asked OTE about such differences they have told me that this is due to higher termination rates they have to pay (which indeed makes sense) |
Yes, the choose between gray white and premium can only be done in the wholesale accounts. The cheap brands usually use the gray route only (which never ever connects to more expensive destinations). You can try callwithus.com or future-nine.com where you can choose the route by dialling a prefix.
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yes, choose a wholesale account on a betamax clone and use the premium route, connection to +371222 & 37121 numbers works just fine, with perfect sound quality too.
as i did mentioned before, the wholesale termination rate paid to camelmobile when calling their numbers is 0.16eur. per minute.... everything charged above this price is net profit of the telephone companies. |
31.08.12 God , Camelmobile have not changed their tariffs are announced? :eek::rotfl:
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these are the new rates: Rates - CamelMobile
-calls from EU countries for calling anywhere in the world start from just 0.25eur. , for example outgoing rates from UK, austria, finland, sweden, poland , cyprus etc. -calls from EU-EU cost eur.0.18, -calls originating from EU to EU countries are charged per second after the first 30seconds (30+1), according to EU regulation. competition like xxsim, ekit, onesimcard, maxroam, gt-sim etc charge per minute..even if you speak just 10seconds -data within EU countries: 0.49eur./ mb with billing per 1kb .data from outside EU (incl.USA, Japan, Australia etc) starting from eur.0.69/mb billing per 10kb. -sms From EU country to EU country eur 0.09, sms from countries outside EU eur.0.30/sms -direct calling (no callback anymore) is already active in all EU countries. -cell-id (phone's location tracking) is free. estonian number simcards like xxsim charge 1eur.per month for this service. -minimum recharge amount 1euro or 1usd. (depending the currency of the ordered simcard) . others, like xxsim require minimum of 20eur. per recharge.. -unlimited validity of the simcard and the credit in the simcard, never expire. (not like ekit,onesimcard, maxroam, xxsim etc where their simcards expire after 1 year...or even 6months some simcards) -voip+sip account, and application (if needed) free of charge, sharing the same balance with the simcard (very cheap+competitive rates when sip calling is used) -option to order a simcard with 2 different billing currencies, either euro or usd billing. -«Number preservation» service. This service ensures that while making outgoing calls, the person you are calling will see your local/normal number displayed. (not the camelmobile number) -free of charge techical support from your mobile from anywhere in the world.. not like xxsim that charges eur.4/minute.. -«Call me back» service If your SIM-card is out of balance, you can send message to any user of any mobile operator asking him to call you back, using the service «Call me back». The service is provided free of charge and doesn’t require any additional set up. -free of charge call forwarding of your camelmobile number to 125countries. (including mobile numbers) if you also like you can subscribe to the special voice bundle that includes all EU countries (also Russia), that you get: the first minute of outgoing call is charged according to standard rate outgoing calls starting from 2nd minute – 0,185 EUR/min; Bonus for incoming calls starting from 3rd minute – 0,02 EUR/min. credited daily. The bundle is valid for 180 calendar days from the moment of activation. Activation of bundle does not change any other rates. Cost of bundle: 2,50 EUR. charged once on activation |
You have specified stupidity and not specifically compare rates with other SIM cards :rolleyes:
Camelmobile is fee-based telephone numbers from letoniamobile as well as sim&web from liechtenstein freetimetelecom, from different countries cost a lot, unfortunately. If you think I'm going to call via Mobile SIP and VoIP etc? No, 0.49c per MB is lot (1GB-49.-€) EU local prepaid SIM cards are cheaper mobileinternet...and but the EU now have incoming calls via local sim 0.09c is a line of quality and therefore possess a UK Vodafon,Maxroam, Xxsim, GT-Sim. ah yes my Favorite is Xxsim and GT-Sim, GT-Sim hawe better tarif EU to EU and World landline only 0.19c EU to EU and World mobile only 0.29c USA, CAN. to EU and World only 0.19c incoming call 0.09c TipTop :D thank you greeting :) |
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camelmobile: EU to EU (landline+mobiles): 0.18 per minute.. per second billing EU to all other world (landlines+mobiles) from 0,23 per minute.. EU, USA+129total countries etc: free incoming calls outsideEU countries to call woldwide (mobile+landlines) from eur.0,33 intranetwork (camel to camel): 0.18per minute to 126 countries (per second billing)! EU countries: direct calling..not callback. *you should have known that voip/sip application also work on wifi.. not only gsm/3g.. so rates on camelmobile sip app. start from eur.0,01 to most worldwide landline numbers (from anywhere in the world with internet access) greetings mate! |
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where do you get it the sip app, I dont seem to find it on the website, I have purchased the sim already. |
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on my android phone works great. |
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