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PaytooMobile 06-07-2010 13:13

I am not up to date with Maxroams offerings, as I will admit I steered clear of them after what I interpreted as misleading pricing on their site. However, for me a "One-stop solution" would involve me having full control over the DID's that they provide. This might involve disactivating the default forwarding to the roaming SIM and instead allow forwarding to a SIP address, fixed line or national SIM. Is this something Maxroam now provide?[/QUOTE]

It is some thing that WE provide......DID a cost, and full freedom to manage it....

Bossman 06-07-2010 13:28

However, your DID's have a setup fee of $4 and require a 3-month minimum rental. Maxroam's does not have a setup fee and is charged only a 1 month rental. Now, I do understand that some of these restrictions are out of your control, but they should still be taken into consideration if you are trying to compare your offering to maxroam's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaytooMobile (Post 33142)
It is some thing that WE provide......DID a cost, and full freedom to manage it....


bbob 06-07-2010 13:57

I al depends on how you want to use the did. If it's only for a small time, a trip than setp and 3 month are more expensive. For a longer time it's cheaper.

I checked my paytoomobile account and looked at the did rates. compred to other internet rates the do not overcharge and they are fair.

But when using voip you might as well use it at home and your business, I have done that for several years now. Your own intenret pbx rented or linux server (depending on size) is than the best option. You don't rely on 1 provider for telphony and have full control.

Maxroma and paytoomobile are nice solotions but not complete voip solutions when you want to have full voip control.

grtvndrvlk 06-07-2010 22:51

Both Irish institutions Commission for Communications Regulation - ComReg and Home - Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources replied that Cubic Telecom/Maxroam has no licence to operate spectrum in or out of Ireland.
The company has not filed for Licensing of Wireless Telegraphy Equipment as they call it.
According to their response it would be illegal for Cubic Telecom/Maxroam to operate/sell in Ireland under a licence acquired in the EEC without having a proper Irish licence.

The Data SIM sold by Maxroam is a Liechtenstein based product HLR 89423.
The Global SIM +44 is a Jersey Telecom product.
The Classic SIM +32 is a Base Belgium product (soon obsolete).

Maybe patphelan can explain.

bbob 11-07-2010 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by grtvndrvlk (Post 33151)
Both Irish institutions Commission for Communications Regulation - ComReg and Home - Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources replied that Cubic Telecom/Maxroam has no licence to operate spectrum in or out of Ireland.
The company has not filed for Licensing of Wireless Telegraphy Equipment as they call it.
According to their response it would be illegal for Cubic Telecom/Maxroam to operate/sell in Ireland under a licence acquired in the EEC without having a proper Irish licence.

The Data SIM sold by Maxroam is a Liechtenstein based product HLR 89423.
The Global SIM +44 is a Jersey Telecom product.
The Classic SIM +32 is a Base Belgium product (soon obsolete).

Maybe patphelan can explain.

On a mission to attack maxroam are we ?

Who cares is they are an mno, mvno or if they can call the moon. Ratex are not impressive comparred to regular EU sims and other roaming free card.

It's just marketing, modern technology, no callback, yes like your normal sim. Just stop this mission are slap them with fact, ratex etc.

Good point is what will they do with their +32 Platform.

grtvndrvlk 14-07-2010 17:34

Maxroam is lying
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbob (Post 33222)
On a mission to attack maxroam are we ?

Good point is what will they do with their +32 Platform.

Drop the mission perspective Bob. It's a forum about prepaid gsm cards and dealers are misleading potential buyers. We should be able to make the light on what is right and wrong here.

Maxroam coming in here saying they are a MNO is a joke. You know it, Andy knows it. They are not even a MVNO. They are a basic reseller like so many others on this market.
Their rates are more expensive then any EU carrier.

Marketing doesn't mean duping buyers.

Tele2 in the Netherlands offers calls from USA to anywhere in the world for 64cts, no call back and all prepaid. I bet they will be around in 10 years from today. That's half what Maxroam is charging.

I ordered Cubic Telecom financials and they only reported 130.000€ in sales for 2009.

The industry is crippled by lousy calling card sellers. Same goes for United Mobile, Celtrek, Yackie, Bluewireless, GT sims...

Yackie's permanent intrusions on threads is a disgrace to this forum. Maxroam lack of response on the Base sim card ongoing sale is no more but an insult to all board members. They might want to port those users to Mobistar (sim swap mandatory) as states the Press Release on my first post but if you read it throughly you will see that the Mobistar agreement is for 36 months only and not with Maxroam but Tellink.

Assuming Tellink will lose in court against KPN that leaves all current subscribers with a lego plastic square.

Only Truphone and Travelsim seems to be making some progress with strong IT teams. The rest is just a waste a time and money.

Buyer beware!

patphelan 14-07-2010 23:17

I am absolutely shocked that a statement like above is allowed in this forum
I think we all know who the user is, attacking us and Yackie probably gives the game away.
I will reiterate that Cubic Telecom is a fully licensed MNO and I have no issue whatsoever sharing the details in private with Andy or Bob, none
MAXROAM has never left one customer short one cent, EVER, NEVER
I would remind any readers of this
I am disgusted to say the least by the above but I think we have almost become anesthetized to occasional vitriolic posts here at times under the cover of anonymity, Andy-Bob if you care to email me I have no problem whatsoever sharing.
I will no be replying to this post again

Stu 15-07-2010 04:11

Excuse my ignorance, but what is an MNO and how does it differ from a MVNO?

bbob 15-07-2010 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 33259)
Excuse my ignorance, but what is an MNO and how does it differ from a MVNO?

MNO Mobile Network Operator
MVNO Mobile Virtual Network Operator

Mobile network operator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The essential characteristic that defines a mobile network operator is that they must have acquired a radio spectrum license from the government before they can offer mobile phone service within a country.

Another category of mobile network operator is emerging in some markets called the Mobile Virtual Network Operator (MVNO). As far as the subscriber is concerned, they seem identical to regular mobile network operators. The critical difference is that they do not own the underlying network of base stations, but lease it instead from another incumbent operator in that country.

A mobile operator may also act as an MVNO, for example if they do not have coverage in a particular geographical region. This is also called National Roaming. The operator may actually own a license to operate but they have chosen not to deploy assets there (for example Meteor uses the Vodafone network in the west of Ireland). Alternatively the operator may not own a particular frequency (for example 3 uses the Orange network for 2G services in the UK).

So basicly if you are and MNO you have bought a spectrum to operate a mobile network and you have your own telecom equipment. As many people will know buying a frequentiy in Countries like UK, Germany, Netherlands or any bigger country will cost you ten, hundred of millions or even more.

It could we be that and island like Jersey is a lot cheaper to buy a frequenty but I guess you would still have to put down infra structure to operate the network and this equipment does not come cheap.

As for Maxroam, if they are an MNO the would be registered somewhere as they will also be looking for roaming agreements with other mno's and it should be no problem telling where they have their mno license. Any proper mno is open about this.

As for me maxroam doesn't really interest me, to expensive anyhow and nothing really new unless you don't want callback and pay a higher rate.

andy 15-07-2010 13:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by grtvndrvlk (Post 33115)
Cubic Telecom/Maxroam claims to be a licensed "Mobile Network Operator". I doubt it's true.
None of institutions contacted have records of Cubic Telecom being "licensed".
Unless Maxroam can provide tangible information I (including others here) will continue to believe it's a lie. It goes directly to their credibility.

You've made some interesting points, but don't take your failure on this point as a good reason to get carried away.

Let's concentrate on facts rather than speculation, as I'm sure I've said before.

It's possible that if you contact a couple of hundred or so, or perhaps rather fewer, you may find yourself obliged to retract this remark.

Until then, speak for yourself but don't assume you can include any other persons or this forum's policy in such sweeping statements, viz:

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Originally Posted by grtvndrvlk (Post 33253)
Maxroam coming in here saying they are a MNO is a joke. You know it, Andy knows it.

Kindly do not include me in your manifestations of ignorance.

Mr Phelan is not lying to us about this.

grtvndrvlk 15-07-2010 20:15

Maxroam is lying
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy (Post 33265)

Let's concentrate on facts rather than speculation, as I'm sure I've said before.

Kindly do not include me in your manifestations of ignorance.

I apologize for including you in my reply. Stealth MNOs are not something common in my world.
There must be a good reason for you to believe they are now a fully licensed carrier. But until we know where and and how I will stick to the FACTS. Once the mystery is cleared I will gladly retract myself.

Facts speak for themselves. I was dragged in a shambling story involving actors associated with roaming cards. It took a mere 4 months for us to get partially paid. During those 4 months I had to investigate when it finally became obvious Tellink was at the epicenter of this mess.

Anyone associated with Tellink is guilty to my eyes. The single fact that Base SIM cards are still being sold by Maxroam is alarming.

I wish Mr Phelan could respond on this particular point instead of claiming he 'officially" owns something remaining mysteriously unofficial.

Also bear in mind that there is absolutely no trace of Cubic being licensed or registered as spectrum owner.
You can email me or PM me if you have related information.

Gert Van Der Valk
Email: grtvndrvlk@gmail.com

andy 16-07-2010 00:05

You are not sticking to facts - you initially said Maxroam's new product was based on resellling Callkey, which was patently a load of bollocks.

And you are still making statements which are untrue, based on gaps in your research. The fact that you've contacted bodies which gave negative answers does not prove there isn't any.

Although editing this late, I already knew the following information last July at the time of this discussion - not informed by Mr Phelan, but because I did some research that you couldn't be arsed with.

Specifically, this statement is absolutely untrue:

Quote:

Originally Posted by grtvndrvlk (Post 33269)
Also bear in mind that there is absolutely no trace of Cubic being licensed or registered as spectrum owner.

It is clearly published on a regulator's website, so kindly dump your bullshit.

Stu 09-08-2010 23:49

What is going on with the Belgium base simcards. are they deactivated?

123456 10-08-2010 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 33600)
What is going on with the Belgium base simcards. are they deactivated?

My 'Belgium' Maxroam SIM (+32) is still working ....

pilot0333 04-09-2010 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by 123456 (Post 33611)
My 'Belgium' Maxroam SIM (+32) is still working ....

Hi, can someone say is number 324899675xx - Maxroam sim? And other quation when i can buy a such sim card with serial number like 324899675xx. Thank's

pilot0333 05-09-2010 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilot0333 (Post 33936)
Hi, can someone say is number 324899675xx - Maxroam sim? And other quation when i can buy a such sim card with serial number like 324899675xx. Thank's

. Were(sorry) i can buy a such sim card with serial number like +324899657xx

123456 07-09-2010 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilot0333 (Post 33958)
. Were(sorry) i can buy a such sim card with serial number like +324899657xx

Maybe at Maxroam.com?

pilot0333 09-09-2010 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by 123456 (Post 33979)
Maybe at Maxroam.com?

were i can reload my maxroam sim by credit card?

dg7feq 09-09-2010 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilot0333 (Post 34003)
were i can reload my maxroam sim by credit card?

on the maxroam.com website...

vr1970 28-09-2010 18:26

Today all international +32 sim card has been deactivated
Travelroam-Buzzroam ect, don't work .
:mad::mad::mad:

123456 29-09-2010 08:48

After login i found these messages on the Maxroam website:
Quote:

We are experiencing a service issue at present. We apologise for this and we hope to have it resolved shortly

Tellink API returned an error. Code: -101

vr1970 29-09-2010 12:01

The messages
"We are experiencing a service issue at present. We apologise for this and we hope to have it resolved shortly"
is present only on Maxroam +32 sim-Travelnroam-Buzzroam-Searoam ect.
Every +32 numbers are deactivated.
KPN Belgium-Base network stopped this service.
The +44 Maxroam sim work ok.

123456 29-09-2010 13:42

Will the SIM come to live again?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vr1970 (Post 34183)
Every +32 numbers are deactivated. KPN Belgium-Base network stopped this service.

The big question still is: are these Maxroam Classic SIMs to be transfered onto a new platform (Mobistar Belgium) by Maxroam's partner Tellink any time soon or not?

vr1970 29-09-2010 15:51

Please Pat Phelan tell us what happened about the +32 sims.
New platform will operated by Mobistar new platform or our account will be stopped
definitely?? :(:confused::mad:
Please help us .
Thanks :)

mingelli 29-09-2010 23:30

It looks like they are switching their cards to Tellink as advertised by end of September. All customers should keep their balance and number.
Should be complete I guess in a few days.
Link is here

Tellink conclut un contrat MVNO avec Mobistar

vr1970 02-10-2010 12:45

Today all +32 sim Maxroam-Travelnroam-Searoam-Buzzroam are active on Mobistar network.
:):D:):p

patphelan 02-10-2010 14:27

Without a sim card change !!!!!!!!!!!! and on the same IMSI
sometimes the lack of knowledge on here is astounding

patphelan 02-10-2010 14:30

Oh and on the same number, maybe the resident genius can explain how that worked

bbob 02-10-2010 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by patphelan (Post 34204)
Without a sim card change !!!!!!!!!!!! and on the same IMSI
sometimes the lack of knowledge on here is astounding

I am lucky not to use one of your sims and given your answers I don't see myself using them in future.

From what I read people are just asking question about the situation. Instead of giving a answer to these question you choose to tell that sometimes the lack of knowledge on here is astounding.

Ask yourself how this will look. You want to be a pro company offering sims and by giving these type of answers you just make a fool out of yourself.

vr1970 03-10-2010 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by patphelan (Post 34205)
Oh and on the same number, maybe the resident genius can explain how that worked

I don't know about this but my sim +32 today working.
You should tell us something about this.
:);):D

andy 03-10-2010 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by vr1970 (Post 34202)
Today all +32 sim Maxroam-Travelnroam-Searoam-Buzzroam are active on Mobistar network.
:):D:):p

Are you in Belgium, or if not does the phone's display indicate Mobistar as well as the roamed network?

vr1970 03-10-2010 13:32

I have a Travelnroam and I'm in Belgium.
In my display I read "Traveller" .
Now my sim roam on BASE and MOBISTAR network.
If I roam on BASE network in my display I read "Traveller".
While if I roam in MOBISTAR network in my display I read "Mobistar".
No call out with MOBISTAR ;incoming calls are ok.
With BASE operator, call direct without callback and incoming calls ok.
:)

borjeg 03-10-2010 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by patphelan (Post 34204)
Without a sim card change !!!!!!!!!!!! and on the same IMSI
sometimes the lack of knowledge on here is astounding

That's one inpolite way to put it.

I think the main problem is the arrogance of the dealer and the inability to communicate with the customers.

I, for one, would never consider doing business with you.


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