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RTuesday 27-03-2010 05:28

I've found where Truphone have hidden the online support:
Truphone | Facebook

Interesting nuggets:

"the inactivity period is 90 days, after which you'll be charged £2 monthly fee that could be avoided by making a call or sending a text." - that's good.

"data is charged per session in 100KB increments. Minimum charge is 100KB, that is 10c in the USA and 5p in the UK." - that's not so good, big chunk.

Rob

Sophia 05-04-2010 01:36

Thanks for sharing :)

fedeprovenza 05-04-2010 09:23

not website?

Effendi 13-04-2010 16:46

I got a Truphone Local Anywhere simcard with British number (+44.7408xxxxxx).
I just sent an SMS to Andrea but it seems he didn't receive it... I was billed € 0.12 while on the website they state SMS cost € 0.11, but I suppose the didn't include VAT...
I sent another SMS to Przemolog now, let's see if he gets it...

Effendi 14-04-2010 07:12

It seems there are some little problems with SMS...
I sent 2:
- destination 3 ITA (number ported from Wind): never received
- destination Orange PL: received, but reply rejected (yet billed by Orange)

Effendi 14-04-2010 11:54

Other tests going on, no very good results...
SMS with mobiSMS to my Truphone: OK, arrived at once
SMS from Truphone to Wind Italy number (no ported number): failed (not billed yet)

I did some data testing too. I downloaded/uploaded 117,26KB of data (Nokia log) and I was billed € 0.32. That means about € 2.80/MB, quite higher than € 1.50/MB such as written on their website. The connection through Vodafone IT HSPA network was fast and with no problems...

P.S. Truphone in Italy roams on TIM and Vodafone networks only, both 2G and 3G. No connection with Wind and 3 Ita.

Truphone 14-04-2010 12:19

Hello All. I thought it would be beneficial for us to post on here so you can give feedback whether positive or negative, and ask questions. Please feel free!

Effendi 14-04-2010 14:27

Hi Truphone, welcome to our Forum.

It really seems there are quite a lot of issues in SMS sending & receiving.
I also copy/paste here what I wrote by e-mail to your customer service.

Here are the problems I had after really few tests.
- SMS to Italian number (operator 3, former Wind number): never received (but billed)
- SMS to Italian number (operator Wind): never received (and not billed)
- SMS to Italian number (operator Vodafone): OK
- SMS to Polish number (operator Orange): OK
- SMS from Polish number (operator Orange): never received
- SMS from mobiSMS service: OK
- SMS from Italian number (operator Vodafone): never received
- SMS from Italian number (operator Wind): never received

All outgoing SMS in Italy have been billed € 0.12 instead of € 0.11.

VladS 14-04-2010 14:50

I have yet to receive my Truphone SIM card... Ordered it on Mar 14th. I guess Canada Post is sloooow.

Truphone 14-04-2010 15:27

Hi Effendi

I have one of our testing and development team looking into the problems, and they may well be in touch directly. I believe we have a number of issues specifically affecting Italy currently, but they will be able to confirm.

Hi VladS

Was this one of the promotional SIMs? If so, can you please drop an email to fun@truphone.com and they will sort out a replacement for you.

Effendi 14-04-2010 19:31

A little update with some corrections.

Outgoing SMS seem to work to all operators I've tried with, i.e.: Wind, Vodafone and 3 in Italy, Orange in Poland, Vodafone New Zealand and Travelsim (Estonia).

Incoming SMS work with NONE of the above mentioned operators. The only SMS I received was the one sent from mobiSMS. I never received SMSes from Truphone itself, which I should receive, as stated on the guide, every time I connect to a roaming network to get information about rates.

I received a call from 3 ITA (our friend AndreA) and it was perfect, very good voice quality. I also tried to call him before and the phone rang but he was busy. So there seem to be no problems with voice calls (both incoming and outgoing), and outgoing SMSes. While incoming SMSes don't work at all.

Effendi 14-04-2010 19:38

Thanks to our friend KiwiSteve I also tested SMS sending to 2degrees, the new NZ operator, but it failed.

Truphone's SMSC is +316540940903 which seems to belong to Vodafone Netherlands, by the way...

Sophia 22-04-2010 18:44

What is SMSC?

ygeffens 22-04-2010 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia (Post 32100)
What is SMSC?

Look at it as a server that relays mail, like an SMTP server for mail, an SMSC relays SMSs.
It accepts SMSs and routes them to the appropriate servers for delivering it to the recipient.

This explains it better than I can...
Short message service center - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sophia 22-04-2010 20:31

Thanks for the explanation :)

BTW I am in the Netherlands right now, and Truphone treats roaming as "local" even though I have a USA number. It also says vodaphone.nl in the APN, so I guess it does use something natively Dutch. In Canada it always mentions "roaming" when I use wireless internet.

That is why I asked about SMSC :D

Effendi 26-04-2010 08:34

Anyone is able to receive SMS on a Truphone sim? From Italian mobiles it's still impossible to receive any...

Sophia 28-04-2010 12:32

I just tested sending an SMS from my Google Voice account to my Truphone number, no problems there. I'm in the Netherlands right now.

Effendi 29-04-2010 08:16

It would be more interesting to test from some normal sim card. Also from MobiSMS it works, but from all 4 Italian operators, Travelsim, New Zealand operators and one Polish operator I received nothing...

tommyv 30-04-2010 12:30

I will be roaming in Macedonia soon, with the majority of calls to Croatia. Both countries are not on the list. Anyone knows why ?

Sophia 02-05-2010 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Effendi (Post 32193)
It would be more interesting to test from some normal sim card. Also from MobiSMS it works, but from all 4 Italian operators, Travelsim, New Zealand operators and one Polish operator I received nothing...

From a Dutch mobile phone (T-Mobile) I receive SMS without problems :) Not sure why it doesn't work for you?

Effendi 14-10-2010 13:19

I receive this e-mail today:

Quote:

Some exciting news from Truphone

We've just launched Truphone Membership designed to make it even easier for you to enjoy local rates in all Truphone countries. And because we'd love you to experience the benefits first hand we're giving you the first month's membership absolutely FREE!

How does Truphone Membership work?

Rather than paying separately for each country now you'll simply pay a £10/$15 Membership fee which gives you access to local rates in all Truphone countries - UK and USA (and Australia coming soon) - for 30 days.

* Hassle free
No need to add local rates for each country individually, you'll now benefit from local rates in all Truphone countries automatically!

* Flexible
We offer a rolling monthly membership plan or, if you'd prefer, you can pay for a one-off month's membership when you need it most.

* All on one SIM
Add a local mobile number for any Truphone country for £5/$8 a month so friends, family and colleagues in those countries can call you without paying for an international call.


Truphone countries are UK and USA with Australia coming on board later this year and Spain, Hong Kong, the Netherlands and many, many more joining in 2011. As a Truphone member you'll get local rates in each new country automatically - for no additional charge.

How will the changes affect me?

If you're a Starter Pack customer you will be given 30 days membership absolutely free from today. All you need to do is enjoy Truphone's local rates!

If you're a Holiday Pack customer or you've added local rates for the UK or USA recently they will still apply for a month from the date you purchased. So you don't miss out we will add an additional 30 days free Truphone membership on the day your local rates expire.

Pro Pack customers, don't worry, the remainder of your 12 month's local rates plan has been automatically switched over to Truphone membership at no extra charge.

If you have an additional Truphone local number on your account then it's yours to keep for 12 months from the day it was added. Only after this time will the new rate of £5/$8 month apply.

We will send you reminders by text and by email to let you know when your free introductory membership is coming to an end.

If you have any questions or are looking for more information you can contact our friendly Customer Support team .

Best regards,

The Truphone Team

teleroam 14-10-2010 19:52

I got the same email from Truphone.

Unless I've misunderstood, it appears Truphone have replaced the free "home country" for Local Anywhere with a paid membership that gives the lower rates for the US and UK (and maybe others later).

In other words, previously the US Local Anywhere had reasonable rates for the US when used domestically. Now, it changes from 10c to 70c a minute, unless a monthly fee of $15 is paid (after 30 days).

So the "home country" appears to have been totally withdrawn, at least in the rates tables. Really kills the main selling point, which was a number that you could use in your home country then add other numbers to when you went overseas. With a monthly fee required to get sensible per minute rates, it becomes uninteresting as a home country number, in most cases.

rfranzq 15-10-2010 05:16

And they have changed the US rates also.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teleroam (Post 34320)
Unless I've misunderstood, it appears Truphone have replaced the free "home country" for Local Anywhere with a paid membership that gives the lower rates for the US and UK.In other words, previously the US Local Anywhere had reasonable rates for the US when used domestically. Now, it changes from 10c to 70c a minute, unless a monthly fee of $15 is paid (after 30 days).

So the "home country" appears to have been totally withdrawn, at least in the rates tables. Really kills the main selling point, which was a number that you could use in your home country then add other numbers to when you went overseas. With a monthly fee required to get sensible per minute rates, it becomes uninteresting as a home country number, in most cases.

No, you have misunderstood.
Quote:

You get local rates for your home country as standard.
They have changed the US rates also. The US receiving a call rate has increased to 15cents [from 10cents, I believe]. The former send/receive US SMS rate was 12cents. Now receiving SMS is free. Does anyone know of ANY other prepaid SMS that has free receipt of SMS to a US number?

rfranzq 15-10-2010 05:34

SMS issues
 
I decided to test if the rate is really/already 0 for incoming SMS. It is. However, It is not receiving SMS from two different AT&T MVNOs. It did receive SMS from T-Mobile and a T-Mobile MVNO. Also received from Google Voice.

bartolo5 19-10-2010 23:30

Flawless
 
Just pinching in on this forum to say I have been using Truphone Local Anywhere for a few months and their service so far has been flawless for me.

I've used the service in the USA (home country), France, Spain, Andorra, Italy and Greece and it worked like a charm everywhere, voice and data included.

Their voice local rates for USA and UK are fine, but their data rates blow chunks (change is coming apparently). They should be adding lots more countries soon so hopefully TLA is going to become a great solution for us international roamers.

bartolo5 19-10-2010 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfranzq (Post 34324)
I decided to test if the rate is really/already 0 for incoming SMS. It is. However, It is not receiving SMS from two different AT&T MVNOs. It did receive SMS from T-Mobile and a T-Mobile MVNO. Also received from Google Voice.

It's pretty amazing Truphone Local Anywhere is offering free incoming SMS in the USA. I'm not aware of any other provider that does it? other than Google Voice of course. Their data rate of $500/GB is still on the pricier side.... :p

rfranzq 20-10-2010 06:53

The near future
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bartolo5 (Post 34361)
I've used the service in the USA (home country), France, Spain, Andorra, Italy and Greece..................... They should be adding lots more countries soon so hopefully TLA is going to become a great solution for us international roamers.

If you indeed live in Spain, they might be a 'home' country before the end of the year. I don't know what your typical usage might be but you might get a Spain SIM and ditch the US one?

bartolo5 20-10-2010 08:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfranzq (Post 34364)
If you indeed live in Spain, they might be a 'home' country before the end of the year. I don't know what your typical usage might be but you might get a Spain SIM and ditch the US one?

It really depends on what sort of data pricing Truphone comes out with. I sort of need decently priced data, most of my phones are iPhone's or Androids these days, and data is very important. There are many cheap alternatives in the spanish prepaid SIM market for both voice and data so if Truphone doesn't come out with something remotely competitive to that it won't make much sense for me to use them.

petkow 20-10-2010 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartolo5 (Post 34362)
It's pretty amazing Truphone Local Anywhere is offering free incoming SMS in the USA. I'm not aware of any other provider that does it?

I'm not aware of any European provider that charges for incoming SMS when roaming anywhere in the world. Does this really still happen in the USA? It must be a rather rare occurrence.

(I suppose it may happen when having SMS 'forwarded' from a local area code number to the number that the SIM is identified with).

bartolo5 20-10-2010 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by petkow (Post 34369)
(I suppose it may happen when having SMS 'forwarded' from a local area code number to the number that the SIM is identified with).

Yes, all cellphone carriers in the USA charge for incoming SMS. Bizarre but that's the way it is. They've been many complain through the years because unlike a phone call, you can't reject an incoming SMS and thus you get charged for something that you can't control, but most people have unlimited text messages plans anyway so it really doesn't matter.

Bossman 20-10-2010 23:52

Yeah. It's weird that the carriers here charge for incoming SMS. Not an issue for most though, since they have unlimited SMS packages. Also, incoming SMS while roaming comes out of the SMS plan. Hence, it's pretty much free for those with SMS packages yo receive SMS, roaming or not.

rfranzq 25-12-2010 09:07

SMS issue resolved.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rfranzq (Post 34324)
However, It is not receiving SMS from two different AT&T MVNOs. It did receive SMS from T-Mobile and a T-Mobile MVNO. Also received from Google Voice.


As of the week before Christmas, the problem seems to be resolved. I have received SMSes from AT&T and AT&T MVNOs.

roryc 21-02-2011 17:31

Local HELP?
 
So another reason I thought this product was great is I could call up from anywhere in the world and get help from english people with any queries I have. I'm sad to learn that we are losing yet another call centre to overseas why is the customer service team being shipped elsewhere?

rfranzq 23-02-2011 01:44

What, Australia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roryc (Post 35952)
So another reason I thought this product was great is I could call up from anywhere in the world and get help from english people with any queries I have. I'm sad to learn that we are losing yet another call centre to overseas why is the customer service team being shipped elsewhere?

What, Australia?


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