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Stu 26-06-2009 18:57

Where are the rules you guys are reading from?

bbob 26-06-2009 19:32

Still have an old yackie card, I wonder If they will update me to a new one for free.

FBlack_111 26-06-2009 19:40

Bossman:

I assumed this is new. But you may be right and it's old information. I would like to hear from Yackie.

They are beta testing their SIM and are selling their VoIP (according to the "YackieMobile" guy) and he has a link to their site. The site talks about a number of new items.

Just look under support, knowledge base, GSM for info.

"Does the Yackie Mobile SIM card expire?
Solution
Yes. Minimum usage of $5 USD every 90 days is required to maintain your active account."

and

"If you choose to add an additional phone number, you will pay a monthly fee for every minute of usage and the number itself. Still, there are NO contract requirements when adding additional phone numbers."

Bossman 26-06-2009 19:41

This is all old stuff. As you can tell, their rate sheet still mentions +354 number.

All the other stuff can be reached when you log in and click on your numbers, then it tells you all thet blab about usage and rental costs for the number.

Again, yackie never updated their website from when their provider went down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 28030)
Where are the rules you guys are reading from?


FBlack_111 27-06-2009 02:02

Bossman:

Thanks for clearing that up.
I once bought a prepaid long distance phone card from a U.S. provider that required only one call every 90 days to keep the card from expiring. Well I missed by two days once and they shut off the card and kept about $45 in credits. I called them and they wanted a high fee to reactivate the card but they said the credit was lost. So now I am more careful about watching when a SIM expires and how much of a credit I have.

Maybe that's part of the reason Yackie failed the first time.

YackieMobile 27-06-2009 13:55

Hi

Just for keeping you updated

The Yackie Mobile V4.....Works Wonder full

And as i said last time, this time it is our SIM card, with our development, our SIM profile, Multi IMSI, USSD, Camel, SMS callback, so a total of 220 countries for voice and text, 140 for DATA (Gprs, G3, etc etc ) and much more, and it at this point that we will have something different, the much more.....

This SIM card is in Trial production; few customers and partners are currently using this SIM in many countries for the debugging part

The Public Release is still plan simultaneity in Americas (north and south), Europe, Australia, Asia, Africa and Middle East

We are still thinking that a huge market exist for the right product.....we will see

Have a great weekend

Bossman 27-06-2009 14:03

You should have at least addressed the question regarding the information on your website. A number of people are thinking it's the current information. You should have come straight and mentioned that everything on your website references the "Old Yackie". You should clear that up first before talking about what the new sim will offer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by YackieMobile (Post 28045)
Hi

Just for keeping you updated

The Yackie Mobile V4.....Works Wonder full

And as i said last time, this time it is our SIM card, with our development, our SIM profile, Multi IMSI, USSD, Camel, SMS callback, so a total of 220 countries for voice and text, 140 for DATA (Gprs, G3, etc etc ) and much more, and it at this point that we will have something different, the much more.....

This SIM card is in Trial production; few customers and partners are currently using this SIM in many countries for the debugging part

The Public Release is still plan simultaneity in Americas (north and south), Europe, Australia, Asia, Africa and Middle East

We are still thinking that a huge market exist for the right product.....we will see

Have a great weekend


bbob 27-06-2009 15:52

Yackie, what about swapping old customers card and credit on these cards ?

ygeffens 28-06-2009 09:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbob (Post 28050)
Yackie, what about swapping old customers card and credit on these cards ?

Didn't they promise that way back in january or so?
This should still apply, not ?

Yves

Bossman 28-06-2009 13:05

Yes. They did. The email they sent also mentioned that any remaining credit will be transferred to the new sim.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ygeffens (Post 28058)
Didn't they promise that way back in january or so?
This should still apply, not ?

Yves


YackieMobile 28-06-2009 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbob (Post 28050)
Yackie, what about swapping old customers card and credit on these cards ?

All customers will have a new card with their credit or some of them who allready request a refund was refunded

bbob 28-06-2009 15:45

Any Idea when you will be sending out cards ?

YackieMobile 28-06-2009 15:49

The Production is plan for end of July, and the ETD august 13..., so we hope that public delivery will be august 15 to 24

We also have few Handset coming, low cost, dual sim, touch panel, and few other stuff who, i hope will make our customer happy to see us again on this battle field

Tks

FBlack_111 28-06-2009 15:53

Yackie:

What will be the policy to keep your new SIM active?

Stu 28-06-2009 17:32

I'm not sure what I'm going to do on the recharge stuff, but I would certainly rather have the option to have an automatic recharge in 90 days if there is no usage. By definition, this is a roaming SIM and just about everyone has had a 90 day period where they haven't left the country. Alternatively, what about debiting some fee rather than wiping out the balance. Take $5 off the balance for each quarter it isn't used. If it is on automatic recharge it will top up, if not it will wipe out.

I've talked a number of coworkers and friends into buying roaming SIMs and they would be far more upset about a dead SIM when they land abroad than in losing $5. I'd also recommend sending them an automatic e-mail about why you are doing it, but tagging the item on the invoice as "service fee," or "administrative fee." If they want to pass the fee on to their employer on reimbursement, don't "out" them.

Bossman 28-06-2009 18:00

Good question. All the other stuff refers to the "Old yackie" and until yackie responds to the questions, I'd say we do not assume the same will apply to the new sim cards.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FBlack_111 (Post 28066)
Yackie:

What will be the policy to keep your new SIM active?


littleyip 28-06-2009 19:40

My biggest questions are whether incoming calls will still be free and if the new sim numbers will still be Iceland based?

FBlack_111 28-06-2009 20:35

Stu:

Auto recharging is fine, depending on the minimum amount. If they keep auto recharging $25-$50 to keep the SIM alive, then you might wind up with losing a high credit if they go out of business.

I like Ekits policy:

"You can restore the expired credit by contacting Customer Service and recharging your account by a minimum of USD $30."

bbob 28-06-2009 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by YackieMobile (Post 28065)
We also have few Handset coming, low cost, dual sim, touch panel, and few other stuff who, i hope will make our customer happy to see us again on this battle field

Tks

Are these the chineese made dual sims ?

Have had one and they really suck.
Although 2 sims work, you can't select the network on the second sim, in general settings on the second sim are limited.
Second problem is battery life. Have heared many problems on this. Mine had a huge 2-3 day standy time (not making any calls) when making a 1 hour call standby was limited to 1 day (like 15 years ago)
Ofcourse the manual wat made using google translate so half of it was unreadable.
Bought it through dealextreme and they have loads of these crappy chineese made phones.
I can only hope that you have a better more reliable solution that has been tested on quality and the regular chinees phones are what the are cheap crap.

The only good dual sim, quad band on both sims, seems to be the new samsung B5702

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Originally Posted by FBlack_111 (Post 28076)
I like Ekits policy:

"You can restore the expired credit by contacting Customer Service and recharging your account by a minimum of USD $30."

I don't like any policy that has my credit expired. I would rather prefer to pay a yearly fee to keep the card active, like travelsim.co.uk and I assume that after 12 month they would just use the remaining credit (if enough) to extend the life for 12 month.
It sound a bit crazy that you have to pay a minimum to get your expired credit restored. Credit is credit and should not expire.

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Originally Posted by littleyip (Post 28073)
My biggest questions are whether incoming calls will still be free and if the new sim numbers will still be Iceland based?

I don't know if the iceland route exists at all these days, seem to have gone out of business. Unless yackie bought the company, you never know, I doubt that they will use Iceland, but Yackie could tell more about that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FBlack_111 (Post 28076)
Stu:

Auto recharging is fine, depending on the minimum amount. If they keep auto recharging $25-$50 to keep the SIM alive, then you might wind up with losing a high credit if they go out of business.
"

Autorecharge is a nice option but you should be the one to activate it if you want. The biggest diadvantage is that when your phone gets stolen they have unlimited credit untill you call in and have your card blocked. For that you need a supplier that has 24/7 customer support, so do and some don't.
But it's an advantage that you don't have to deposit a large amount and you can keep credit low.
Just wonder what happend if you make a long call and run out of credit, will it recharge during the call ? or does the call stop, recharge and you have to call again.

andy 28-06-2009 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbob (Post 28084)
Are these the chineese made dual sims ?

Have had one and they really suck.
Although 2 sims work, you can't select the network on the second sim, in general settings on the second sim are limited.
... and the regular chinees phones are what the are cheap crap.

I assumed that this was about a dual-ID SIM, not dual-SIM phones

FBlack_111 29-06-2009 02:49

BBob:

Did you buy one of those Chinese Iphone knockoffs, the Hiphone? If so, how bad was it? I have seen those on Craig's List for $79.

bbob 29-06-2009 08:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by FBlack_111 (Post 28093)
BBob:

Did you buy one of those Chinese Iphone knockoffs, the Hiphone? If so, how bad was it? I have seen those on Craig's List for $79.

No bought it last year on dealextreme, model v90. How it works there is they only show positive reveiws of customers. When your read questions and remarkts from customers you find out that most of them are not really happy.

Have indeed saw some of those iphone looking phones. Just don't want to spent any money to see if they work. Some only have 3 month guarantee, others maybe 1 year. Good chance you have to sent them back at your cost and also pay for the shipping back to you.
I sent my back to dealextreme for guarantee but had not heard anything from them. Now 6 month later filled a complaint and finally they credited me. So I am left with 100 dollar to buy some more of their crap product.

My advice stay away, it's cheap copies or if you want to buy one get one from a us supplier that imports them. In case of a problem he has to solve it. That said if he is still in business than.

I don't know how the samsumg sim works but the chineese, when you have a call going on on 1 sim and get a call on the other sim it goes straight to voicemail, so you can't switch between calls on 2 sims.

Als there are some posting on the internet where they took apart an iphone to analyse what's in it and how much it would cost. From what I can remember it was more than 79 dollar. So even if prices have dropped just based on hardware cost, apple being a big player just think logical they can't make a quality phone for that price. They can't even if the hardware cost of big players is allready higher.

Quote:

Portelligent has told EETimes, that based on what they now about the components that Apple are using in the iPhone 3G, the actual bill for materials could be as low as $100.00 as compared to the original iPhone’s material cost of $170.00.
Even if the chineese can make it for $100 they still have to make a few dollars on it. So imagine if they sell a phone for $79, they still make some money on this, so their cost maybe 65$. The only way you can explaine a big difference like this is crap components.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy (Post 28086)
I assumed that this was about a dual-ID SIM, not dual-SIM phones

dula sim phone. 2 sims working at the same time in 1 phone. Think I even posted a review here somewhere.

YackieMobile 29-06-2009 12:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by FBlack_111 (Post 28066)
Yackie:

What will be the policy to keep your new SIM active?

As we dont have any more the same issue or parameters than when we was using 09 mobile back office, our new SIM card will not have any restriction for the delay , so the sim will be Life time....( if life time can be applyed..:-)

For the credit, we will maybe decide to keep it actif for 9 months , it's an usual habit in this business as many customers buy the sim for just one trip usage and drop it..

YackieMobile 29-06-2009 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleyip (Post 28073)
My biggest questions are whether incoming calls will still be free and if the new sim numbers will still be Iceland based?

Yes we will have few countries with the incoming free and NO it is not an Iceland Based SIM card

NOT a belgium, NOT one isle of Man, NOT a UK, etc etc

This product is a NEW product, result of 8 month works and partnership with one of the major telecom operator and one of the major SIM provider..

YackieMobile 29-06-2009 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy (Post 28086)
I assumed that this was about a dual-ID SIM, not dual-SIM phones

We have signed a Joint venture with a Factory and a RD compagny who make some handset for the major Brand name, or products will not be a cheap chinese handset, BUT will be produced in china, and Korea.....

prion 29-06-2009 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by YackieMobile (Post 28114)
We have signed a Joint venture with a Factory and a RD compagny who make some handset for the major Brand name, or products will not be a cheap chinese handset, BUT will be produced in china, and Korea.....

I also have a question.

It would be great if you would charge (incoming and outgoing calls) by the second or at least at 15 seconds increments instead of 1 minute increments. Do you consider such an option?

littleyip 29-06-2009 15:17

Yackie, can you tell us where the sim number will be based? Thanks!

WooF 29-06-2009 18:05

Dodgy mobile
 
Would anyone really trust a company that has been dead for such a long time. What's the next scam. Ask customers to pay for there new sim card !

Unless your giving customers a free replacement sim card and moving over the old call credit, I would not give you a single dime $



'We make your Money Mobile' - yes, my money in your pocket !

YackieMobile 29-06-2009 20:16

[quote=WooF;28125]Would anyone really trust a company that has been dead for such a long time. What's the next scam. Ask customers to pay for there new sim card !

Unless your giving customers a free replacement sim card and moving over the old call credit, I would not give you a single dime $

I can see that you are a Yackie Fan.....great

Off course the SIM will be free and all customers will have their credit back...

Sorry for you....

YackieMobile 29-06-2009 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by prion (Post 28116)
I also have a question.

It would be great if you would charge (incoming and outgoing calls) by the second or at least at 15 seconds increments instead of 1 minute increments. Do you consider such an option?

we are considering 30 secondes, maybe every 20 should be the good number

prion 29-06-2009 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by YackieMobile (Post 28131)
we are considering 30 secondes, maybe every 20 should be the good number

If it is every 20 seconds it would be very good and really make a difference!

jeffg1998 29-06-2009 21:26

Yackie:

I've been waiting patiently for you to come back along with my replacement SIM. Leaving for Europe 15 September... do you think I'll have my replacement SIM?

Can you give us any preview of call pricing.... Country to US? Some of the major European countries?

Thanks.

YackieMobile 14-07-2009 11:38

another yackie thread
 
Hi

Public release for our SIM....August 24, and these are his features

If you have any suggestion for anything you maybe think it's missing, please send me a PM


World coverage, data, voice, text, voip, Inbound DID, long distance caling card, web call back, automatic reload, largest retail top up network, blackberry friendly, voice mail to Email etc many more feature......BUT NO free incoming.....as we will use a regular phone number but the lowest rates in the market will be applyed

Stu 14-07-2009 13:05

I look forward to seeing Yackie's new offering. Any word what happens with old Yackie accounts? I've often wondered whether the folks on this forum are the best benchmark. The fact that we are obviously compulsive researchers in this area means that we will be the ones who seek the most aggressive prices. Obviously the least savvy folks just roam with their home carrier. I presume most people are somewhere in between.

From a marketing point of you, have you sought any co-branding deals? Low rates are the primary driving force, but they are not the only one. For example, for many of us passing inbound caller-id would be a nice feature. There are many calls I don't like to take at certain times of the day. For example, I got a call at 11am EST which corresponded to something like 11pm in Singapore. I had shared a bottle of wine with some friends, and had a cognac, etc. I had the most anal lawyer I know on the phone wanting to go through various commas and semi-colons in a a contract with me. There was no way that I was prepared to deal with the call competently then and disclosing that you are drunk and tired isn't always the best strategy even where it is timezone appropriate for you. Believe me, I would rather have screened that call out.

prion 14-07-2009 13:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by YackieMobile (Post 28531)
Hi

Public release for our SIM....August 24, and these are his features

If you have any suggestion for anything you maybe think it's missing, please send me a PM


World coverage, data, voice, text, voip, Inbound DID, long distance caling card, web call back, automatic reload, largest retail top up network, blackberry friendly, voice mail to Email etc many more feature......BUT NO free incoming.....as we will use a regular phone number but the lowest rates in the market will be applyed

I also look forward to your sim. What about billing increments?

YackieMobile 14-07-2009 17:23

billing increment will be , first 30 secondes and after that every 20 secondes

jeffg1998 14-07-2009 18:15

Yackie---

Have a trip in September. Will my replacement SIM card arrive in time? (September 15 to be exact).

prion 14-07-2009 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by YackieMobile (Post 28542)
billing increment will be , first 30 secondes and after that every 20 secondes

same tactic for incoming and outgoing calls?

petkow 14-07-2009 18:33

I like the way a thread with a title saying "Perfect SIM Card" has been hijacked by Yackie yakity yak yak. ;)

bbob 14-07-2009 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by YackieMobile (Post 28531)
Hi

as we will use a regular phone number but the lowest rates in the market will be applyed

Yackie I think you are saying here something that will be difficult and I really hate marketing saying you have the lowest rate in the market.

From what I read the forwarding from a did number as u use regular phone numbers to the cellphone will cost something but will be the lowest price in the market ?

I have several did's that I forward to a +44-7 uk number, using voicetrading cost only 8 cents per minute. So receiving a forwarded call in a roaming free country will cost be 8 cents.

So the cellphone can't be called directly ?
So how would you sent an sms, will the local phone number forward the sms or is it like previous cards that you will supply a number for sms but that number can't be called directly.
When making a call what caller id will show up, the one from the local did ?


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