Thanks. I can not seem to find in which countries incoming call are free when someone dials the +354 number

If they adopt the free incoming countries from 09 mobile (and from my quick check it looks like) you can have a look at the rate table for 09 at orate:
http://www.orate.co.uk/Roaming/09tariff.html

Here is the list of inbound free countries:

Origination Zone 1
Australia, Austria, Balearic Islands, Belgium, Benin, Brazil, Brunei, Canary Islands, Cyprus, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Guernsey, Guinea, Iceland, Ireland, Isle of Man, Israel, Italy, Jersey, Liechtenstein, Madeira, Malaysia, Monaco, Mongolia, Norway, Singapore, Sudan, Sweden, Taiwan, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom

Origination Zone 2
Algeria, Andorra, Bolivia, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Congo, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Faeroes, Gabon, Georgia, Ghana, Gibraltar, Iran, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mauritius, Mexico, Mozambique, Netherlands, New Zealand, Palestine, Poland, Portugal, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Spain, Swaziland, Switzerland, Togo, Trinidad & Tobago, Uganda, Uzbekistan, Venezuela, Zambia, Zimbabwe

Origination Zone 3
Albania, Armenia, Aruba, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus, Bosnia Hercegovina, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chile, Colombia, Croatia, Czech Republic, Fiji, Hungary, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Madagascar, Maldives, Malta, Moldova, Namibia, Netherlands Antilles, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Paraguay, Senegal, Seychelles, Slovakia, Slovenia, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Yemen


Chris

So, does it work there or not???

BTW, I wouldn't be 100% sure if the free incoming list for "true" 09 is the same as for Yackie. Outgoing rates are different, so....

NO Chris, we have our own table, we dont use the 09 Rates tables

We have some terminaison made by ourself, and some by them

So we have our own Pricing list, and by this way our own incoming free countries

Important things

We dont charge a set u fees

We dont Charge buzy or wrong calls

We charge basicaly 0.29$ incoming when you use the DID attached in Most of teh countries

WE charge starting 0.49$ i most of the countries also for a outgoing

We charge 0.49$ flat fees for a SMS worldwide

The SMS incoming are free

Etc etc

Hi...what about Switzerland?

Thanks. Where can we find incoming costs when the caller uses the +354 number to call us?

It's all in the rate displayed. For example from Aruba to US it shows as. Right there second to the last line "Incoming call is Free" This means if called on the +354 number.

You call from : Aruba To : USA
Local Call : (Aruba )
$0.69 /mn
Outgoing call :
Mobile : $0.59 /mn
Land Line : $0.59 /mn
SMS out : $0.49 /sms
SMS in : FREE
Incoming Call : FREE
Incoming calls with your 'local' number is: $0.29

Received Yackie SIM and Question for Yackie
 

I'm new to the forum but wanted to post my experiences here.

I opted in for the free SIM offer from Yackie. I received my voucher on Tuesday, ordered immediately without problems (received my new phone numbers, confirmations, etc), and physically received the SIM yesterday.

I made a few test calls but did not answer the phone to avoid charges and the card worked PERFECTLY!! Very satisfied here. I don't know anything about Yackie in the past and I'm sure many of you have legitimate problems, concerns, etc. but the Yackie of today seems GREAT!

One question for Yackie man... SIM and credit expiration. When does the SIM and the credit expire? I can read the website in 2 ways. One way is that the SIM expires in 9 months unless you top off regardless of how many calls you've made. Another interpretation is that the SIM stays active for 9 months after a call is made, thus you can keep extending your SIM by simply making one call every 9 months.

Which interpretation is correct?

And thank you again for your generous offer.

Same here, I received the card yesterday. Everything works as described, except that I sent a couple of sms from it but they were not received on the other phones (One AT&T and one tmobile). It says sent succesful and credit deducted. Receiving sms on the yackie sim was fine.

Sms
 

Hi Bossman,

I'm at Yackie technical support. Could you send me a private message with more info regarding the SMS attempts, so I can run some traces, please provide your Yackie mobile number, along with the numbers you were sending to.

Many thanks,
Yackie Tech

Thanks. what about costs for other countries when dialing the +354 number?

I mean those with incoming call rates other than zero

The only way I know to find that out is to select a particular country and see how much it is (unless you can get yackie to provide you with a rate sheet for all countries or so).

For example for the US (incoming is not free here). I used calling UK as an example, but any country chosen should not affect the cost to receive calls in the US.

You call from : USA To : United Kingdom
Local Call : (USA )
$2.24 /mn
Outgoing call :
Mobile : $2.34 /mn
Land Line : $2.24 /mn
SMS out : $0.49 /sms
SMS in : FREE
Incoming Call :
Incoming calls with your 'local' number is: $1.99

sent...Thanks!

Just want to post that Yackie started an investigation on the sms issue once they found it in their system. Also, they issued a refund to my account for the sms messages already.

Very good customer service indeed!

As you may or may not know, there has been a continuing problem with the USA gsm carriers accepting incoming sms messages from certain international sim cards...for a while, as I remember but you can correct me if I'm wrong, there was a thread here how T Mobile USA considered all sms messages coming in from +423 as being non acceptable.....

correct
 

Correct!

T-Mobile was blocking +423 and a handful of other very countries/carriers. That was as late as springtime and had been ongoing. I don't know about ATT and could not check as I do not have that service.

Stan

I can say that many countries in the USA do not allow calls to +354 including Vonage and Tmobile, as I have tried.

I just couldn't resist...I sent a voucher request using a scan of the order form and welcome letter from the defunct BuyTel Travelfone company in Ireland as proof of purchase.

Let's see if they accept it. If they do, this will truly be a case of turning a lemon into lemonade :)

My scan of my eKit welcome letter was accepted within 8 hours, the order is already completed and they let me know they sent the card already.
Well organised I must say.

I sent them a Geodessa scan last night. Let's see what happens.

The card will be shipped Monday from our Dubai office i think.....

Hi, thanks for the clarification.
Would it be possible to see a list of the free incoming countries and/or a rate sheet sorted by zones? Its much more pracical expecially for comparison than clicking trough every country on the calculator website.

Chris

some infos
 

We dont work by zone, this is also our difference

We will publish monday our list of free countries, but for the General rates

we try to have one price ( we will perform.....:-)) 0.49$ for an outgoing call

Scoop ? ok in our Surprises ( Bobb are you here ? ) one is that you will be able to load your yackie Mobile wallet in 150 850 Western union location worldwide

So now you have two new infos !!!

Mobile wallet and Western union cash deposit

To be follow.......

Have a great week end

Speaking of Dubai, have you checked how your SIM works outside the Jumerah area. It is strange, but most callback schemes work in the tourist part of the UAE, but if you get out to Al Ain, Abu Dhabi, etc., they just don't seem to work. The SMS for the callback just seems to fail. I can't explain it.

Dubai, however, is not a place that I use a roaming SIM. I have both Etisilat and Du. Don't ask me why. Du was basically giving the SIMs away one day and tried it. At least as of last month, they still had a few bugs.

info
 

We have a very large base of customers to Dubai , and basicaly everywhere in the emirats because we have a distribution agreement with axiom telecom and some other group, and for now we dont have any issue in this area, abu dhabi, qatar, dubai, kuwait

Hi there,

On 17th October i sent an e-mail to client @ yackiemobile . com.

I'm waiting, too :-)

Agree on well organized. They accepted the defunct Buytel Travelfone order form/welcome letter scan and sent me an email with a voucher number. Went through the order process on their website without any problems as instructed in the email, and they sent a confirmation email immediately that included the free local US phone number that was assigned(like the idea I can be reached as a local call when outside the country). So far, so good. Hoping the sim card works as seamlessly as their order process.

I used my new Yackie card in Germany last weekend; unfortunately I didn't have much time and I had also my German Simyo which I used most, anyway I just received a call on my Italian DID number and the quality was rather good, a little delay, but still acceptable. In Switzerland, of course (unfortunately) there was no coverage. BTW it seems really another world compared to the old Yackie, also the packaging was really nice, all communication fast and kind, I have to say that it's on the right way.

Are we reaching the point Effendi where we can add Yackie back to one of the forum's recommended carriers? (perhaps you can wrok out a beneficial deal with them)....of course the lack of coverae in Switzerland (I understand it's an O9 thing) is rather puzzling...they (O9 that is) have had about 2 years to rectify the situation and I really don't understand why they can't hook up with any Swiss roaming partner (or in other words does O9 contain some sort of disease that Swiss operators are afraid of catching?)....

To Yackie/others,

Is there a maintenance-fee (monthly cost) for the local DID?
I can 't find it on the website (or I need to buy glasses)...

Yves

The first local DID has no maintenance fee. Any additional ones do have a fee. Can't remember what it is. But, if you go to their website and choose to add an additional DID to your sim, it will let you know the monthly charge.

09 in Switzerland
 

Hi, just wanted to clarify the Switzerland question.

09 has some technical arrangements with the Swiss operators that would not be possible if roaming was also allowed in Switzerland - this is an industry wide problem in the prepaid roaming world, it just happens that in 09's case it's Switzerland which is unfortunate, but without going into any technical details, it also means that 09 and it's partners support 190 roaming countries with considerably more reliability than otherwise.

It's the 'technical arrangements' that we're interested in :-)
I don't understand why not making a roaming agreement with one operator would result in a more reliable situation?

Maybe it has something to do with privacy (like their 'banking secrecy' - don't know if that's translated well)... ?

Generically speaking, mobile operators sometimes exchange roaming agreements amongst themselves, when this happens they have to deny access in their own networks due to the subscriber then appearing to them as a local subscriber, which they don't have any record of, on the other hand the same subscriber gains access to many countries that would not make commercial sense for their operator to do direct agreements with.

Sorry..I'm dense...are you saying that, generically speaking of course, in order not to have sit around and make roaming agreements with 190 different operators, you make roaming arrangements with a few and receive the roaming arrangements they have but in the process you have to sacrifice the ability of your own subscribers to roam in that country so that by, generically speaking of course, O9 had to make an agreement say with Swiss operators that in order to dig into their data base of roaming partners, they had to agree that their own subscribers could not roam there.

Makes no sense to me...it doesn't seem as if this "problem" has occurred with any of the Estonian, Liectenstein, Isle of Man (when they were living of course) or Jersey operators.

I think this is justifiable if 09 is using swiscom roaming agreements.

UM uses mobilkom roaming agreements. The situation is more clear there. It is an MVNO of Mobilkom

Swisscom, however, has (or had) a roaming brokerage service where it acted as a roaming consolidator to smaller operators.

Hi Matha531,

I think it's probably more a case of the ability of smaller operators to do such a large amount of roaming agreements, seeing as most smaller operators throughout the world do roaming access agreements that operate similarly, 09 Mobile isn't an MVNO, and is AFAIK the only international prepaid roaming provider that operates it's own network, and I think that 09's network might have the best worldwide network coverage available on an international prepaid SIM even though there is unfortunately no coverage yet in Switzerland.

Of course this also extends to Yackie Mobile who's new SIM card is the subject of this thread, their product looks very professional and polished.

Earlier in this thread, Yackie wrote that they do terminate (some, not all) of their connections, themselfs. So, if that's true, they should be able to make Switserland available, if they can make some agreements with the Swiss Mobile Operators, AND they are allowed to terminate to countries that their supplier isn't allowed to terminate to.

Yeah, I think their new offer is reliable and a good service overall, even if maybe not the cheapest...