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snaimon 28-05-2007 00:01

Vat?
 
Is that with or without VAT? Good ol' Mehrwertsteuer! I thought I read the rates you cited were WITHOUT, so the final prices are actually higher.

And as you wrote, it is far from clear when the new rates will actually take effect. I don't think the companies can revise their billing systems that fast.

Also unclear is if and how many provides may undercut those caps and by how much.

Stan

dg7feq 28-05-2007 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaimon (Post 15156)
Is that with or without VAT? Good ol' Mehrwertsteuer! I thought I read the rates you cited were WITHOUT, so the final prices are actually higher.

And as you wrote, it is far from clear when the new rates will actually take effect. I don't think the companies can revise their billing systems that fast.

Also unclear is if and how many provides may undercut those caps and by how much.

Stan

Erm, yes, without VAT. Just checked again to make sure. So for german cards the capped tariffs would be 58,31ct/min outbound and 28,56 ct/min inbound.

Got a bit confused by now as they always threw in new figures in the discussions...

Chris

Przemolog 28-05-2007 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaimon (Post 15156)
Is that with or without VAT? Good ol' Mehrwertsteuer! I thought I read the rates you cited were WITHOUT, so the final prices are actually higher.

And as you wrote, it is far from clear when the new rates will actually take effect. I don't think the companies can revise their billing systems that fast.

Also unclear is if and how many provides may undercut those caps and by how much.

Stan

It had to be w/o VAT since VAT rates are country dependent (15-25% depending how greedy is a specific national government :-P). Moreover, AFAIK there's also a currency converting rule for non-euro countries to prevent from getting extra "hidden" profits on unfair exchange rates.

I think that updating the billing system isn't a long process if identical rates were to be applied to roaming in all EU. If ops wanted to complicate things within the limits, it might be really longer....


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