But Netherlands does not even appear as an option in the rate calculator!?

It appears all calls will be done by SMS callback. Nothing new! But why are so many still holding out for this product? There's loads more competition out there, with even cheaper rates! I cannot say Yackie's track record warrants us pinning much hope onto this product anyhow!

I believe most that are holding out for this product are those of us that had some credit on our old yackie account before they went belly up. So most feel we are at least owed our credit somehow...be it on their new sim card or not. It's another story as to how many of us will actually topup and continue to use yackie. From my brief view of the website, some rates seem ok. However there is nothing new or exceptional about what I saw.

Because we are not talking about Yackie andy......

NOPE

we use camel in the camel countries, USSD in the USSD countries, and only a SMS if nothing is availlable

and i dont see any real competitor for our product....do you ? WHO?

What exactly are we talking about?
What's the name of the "new" product?

Paytoo Mobile

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It's a good job you remembered to renew that domain name a couple of years ago.

I wish you luck, though I wonder how much people will take to integrating your product lines like this

I suspect that at the moment most people use either credit or debit cards or both, rather than prepaid top-up products, though there's obviously space for prepaid for people with low credit ratings, or for specialist versions with good foreign exchange rates, and which aren't open-ended if lost or subjected to fraud.

I think mobile cash transactions will become more common. We're told that some vending machines in some countries (Finland?) use text message payment, and some car parks here are supposed to eventually work like that, though the only time I tried it in the interim I got bored with the time-wasting phone-in registration process on a premium rate number, and drove off to park elsewhere.

Several railway station vending machines in Germany and Austria accept mobile payments. It annoyed me though as people who were roaming with a foreign SIM could not buy! Even bicycles in Germany can be paid and rented by mobile payment.

However, to be honest I had a look at the site and in a nutshell, I'm confused. What is the differentiation between Paytoo and Yackie? Why have you said Paytoo wil be used in some coutries and Yackie elsewhere? I hate having to be a detective with something that is supposed to sell itself.

Too many questions, and I wish user Yackie would post something non-cryptic here for a change. For a start, why don't you introduce your "new product", without as usual the members here having to ask a 100 questions and make guesses. Go ahead. Be bold. Start a new thread called PayToo Mobile. Don't you think the several hundred highly international users of this site who could be potential customers could do with a bit of a personal introduction?

I'm just wondering what the intention is once it's launched. Is it to integrate the mobile wallet and a roaming SIM, off a singular prepaid account?

So, credit the account, incur roaming charges if you want to roam with the SIM and/or complete mobile payment transactions, from the same account?

Exactly. Thanks.